• zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    Again: “compulsively” “helplessly”.

    Look, if you’re not interested in admitting that words have meaning, you’re not arguing in good faith and I’m done with you. Have a good one.

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      Lol yes. Choice has meaning. Choice being dictated by compulsive behavior, or dominant chemical signaling is still choice. Like, your brain is doing it. Choice is not just “what color shirt will I wear today”, it is far deeper.

      I’m not victim blaming or trying to fuck with you, I am focusing on the fact that words have meaning, and choice isn’t just a surface level, front brain thing. Choice is integral to the human condition, and choice and addiction are bedfellows. The latter dominating the former.

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        Choice is, by definition, not subject to compulsion, and if it is subject to compulsion is not a willing choice, it is forced and influenced. If you want to be a pedantic asshole at least have the intellectual integrity to be right first.

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          Compulsion is overridden choice!

          I’m not suggesting addiction is done flippant thing, it’s a serious disease.

          Quit throwing around insults then claiming I’m the one lacking integrity.

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            And not a choice.

            Yes, action against compulsion is an active choice, but to not do so is not suddenly a lack of active choice, just a lack of ability to enforce it.

            If you’re concerned with what you are, be different.

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                Consider a dictionary.

                I’ll repeat myself for your own benefit.

                Yes, action against compulsion is an active choice, but to not do so is not suddenly a lack of active choice, just a lack of ability to enforce it.

                Wilful ignorance devalues your position far more than an ad hominem ever will.

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                  Mmk I’ll Google those for you

                  Compulsion: an irresistible persistent impulse to perform an act

                  Impulse: a sudden desire, whim, or inclination

                  Inclination: a preference or tendency, or a feeling that makes a person want to do something

                  Preference: the power or opportunity of choosing

                  Addiction is the loss of power or opportunity to CHOOSE.

                  You seem obsessed with the assumption that I think addicts are just weakly choosing the wrong thing, or something. That’s very much not my suggestion. Deep in the core of the brain, chemical dependence pathways influence decisionmaking in a way the victim is unable to override.