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    11 months ago

    They took hostages for a reason, ostensibly to exchange them for something. Hamas doesn’t want peace though, so why would they care about a peace plan? Also, as mentioned before, they have released a few already.

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      11 months ago

      They took hostages for a reason, ostensibly to exchange them for something.

      Yeah. Human shields. And they’re still using them as human shields. Its like terrorist tactics 101 here.

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          11 months ago

          Fine

          Hamas fights using plain clothes, blending in with the civilian population and uses irregular and dishonorable tactics, like building military bases inside or under Hospitals to use as a human shield.

          Or like how most people would call it, they’re fucking terrorists.

          If you want a more precise legal terms, perhaps violating Geniva conventions, irregular, human shields, asymmetric. These are people who pretend to be civilians while fighting, while kidnapping civilians to use as shields.

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            11 months ago

            does Israel recognize a Palestinian state? it seems like they own Gaza when they want to treat them like subjects, and they don’t when they want to treat them like an opposing state.

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              11 months ago

              Does Hamas was to be treated as a state?

              Part of that means telling and training your combatants to wear a uniform, so your enemies at war can tell the difference between civilians and combatants.

              Wearing civilian clothes while attacking and killing people is literally a terrorist tactic. You aren’t supposed to blend into the crowds and use them as human shields.

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                  11 months ago

                  They certainly don’t act like one, not with Hamas as leading them.

                  That’s part of the problem. I think the PLO or PLA might be better leaders for them.

                  Did you look at the Egyptian peace deal? No one wants Hamas running Gaza anymore. Hamas has failed miserably and even the Muslim countries of Egypt and Qatar include new governments as part of the peace deal.

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                    11 months ago

                    if Gaza isn’t independent then they can’t be committing war crimes. it’s just regular crime. and Israel collectively punishing the ethnic minority are the ones committing war crimes.

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                  11 months ago

                  Legally speaking, it ceases to be a Hospital the moment military command is happening there. Yeah, people are being treated, but if there’s a legitimate military target, its a military target and no longer a Hospital.

                  Don’t like it? Then get the United Nations to write a new Geneva Convention. Rules are rules.


                  That’s why its incredibly important to keep civilians and military separated. US Builds a Military base over here, far away from civilians, to make everyone 100% clear what is, or isn’t, a legitimate target. Uniforms, etc. etc. all play a role in this.

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                    11 months ago

                    Then get the United Nations to write a new Geneva Convention.

                    what’s the point? israel ignores them anyway.

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                    11 months ago

                    Rules are rules.

                    it’s immoral whether you think the rules say it’s ok or not.

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              11 months ago

              We literally have footage of Oct 7th with Hamas’s soldiers attacking and taking hostages and what they were wearing.

              They absolutely violate the dress codes of war.