Voters spurned Beijing’s repeated calls not to vote for Lai, delivering a comfortable victory for a man China’s ruling Communist Party sees as a dangerous separatist.

Lai Ching-te of the ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) vowed to defend the island from China’s “intimidation” and on Sunday the island’s foreign ministry told Beijing to accept the result.

“The Ministry of Foreign Affairs calls on the Beijing authorities to respect the election results, face reality and give up suppressing Taiwan in order for positive cross-strait interactions to return to the right track,” it said in a statement.

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    Cool, uh, anyway, in Taiwan the President is directly elected by popular vote.

    So the majority of Taiwanese voted for a President who opposes greater integration/interference/subservience to, whatever you wanna say, with or to China.

    In fact this would seemingly necessarily mean that the only way this could happen along with the DPP not also winning a majority in Parliament is that a good chunk of Taiwanese support the KMT and TPP for domestic affairs, but prefer a president, who has more power and relevance specifically to foreign affairs, that opposes integration/interference/subservience with/from/to China.

    But please do go on about my narrative while you are either knowingly or unknowingly misrepresenting the most fundamental basics of the situation.

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        You’re right, its a plurality. I misspoke.

        Still doesn’t change any of the rest of what I said.

        Hey at least I can admit and own up to a mistake!

        Also worth noting, the TPP candidate, incumbent and now former President Ken Wen-je, is in favor of the status quo with China, in terms of their governmental influence/dominion, meaning continued independent governance when it comes to sovereignty, though this does mean significant economic partnership, in uh, economic terms.

        So that’s actually roughly 65% of Taiwanese voting for a President that seem to not want Taiwan to become a part of China.

        Which would be… a majority.

        Damn near a super majority, as us filthy consumeristic and vapid Americans might say.

        To actually attempt to venture into the Narrative Construction Zone, one might say that despite one major party in Taiwan with close positions and ties to the Chines Government itself, the momentum seems to be in favor of moving toward /less/ interference from/subservience to/ integration with China, especially where matters of sovereignty are concerned.

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          Shows how little you understand. KMT wants the status quo, TPP wants to engage China.

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            And at this point I am sure that when you say that you mean the status quo of Taiwan has always been a part of China.

            You are wrong, but keep pushing that narrative!

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              See, you don’t know and try to force your narrative on others. And if we actual Taiwanese people tell you no, you mansplain it to us. This is why I hate people like you.

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                @Joncash

                See, you don’t know and try to force your narrative on others. And if we actual Taiwanese people tell you no, you mansplain it to us. This is why I hate people like you.

                If there’s one here who forces narratives on others than it is you. Your comment shows little respect of others, you even offend them. You obviously do not act here in good faith.

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                  I have stated nothing but facts. TPP wants to engage China.

                  https://news.yahoo.com/taiwans-opposition-says-towards-better-052635196.html

                  KMT wants the status quo.

                  https://www.brookings.edu/articles/from-dove-to-hawk-kmts-transformation-and-the-quest-for-new-guardrails-in-cross-strait-relations/

                  Instead of refuting facts, the above poster resorted to insults. So yes, I insulted him back.

                  I expect you too will not refute facts but instead keep insulting me.

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                    Engaging with China is a really broad thing to say, from the article that you posted about the TPP:

                    “Taiwan’s relationship with China is based on two principles: Deterrence and communication,” said Ko Wen-je from the TPP People’s Party in Taipei on Friday.

                    The ruling Communist Party in Beijing counts Taiwan as part of its territory and has already threatened to use military means to force reunification. Ko said China demonstrates this every day, which is why Taiwan has no choice but to move closer to its ally, the US.

                    You said the TPP is pro-china, like the KMT, but to me it doesn’t read like that at all. China wants reunification, the TPP is highly against that and is willing to fight for their freedom.

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                We’re really pulling mansplaining out of nowhere when you don’t even know their gender? Super weird.