• SaltyLemon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What’s the fucking point. The community isn’t even hosted on lemmy.world. I don’t want to have to create a new a account on a new instance every time a dumbass admin decices to block a community I follow. Lemmy is doomed to fail.

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      Devil’s advocate, all content is replicated onto federated instances, the admins of Lemmy.world may be afraid of legal repercussions in their country for technically hosting such content. Personally, I don’t think merely discussing piracy will get them in trouble, but their instance, their call.

      But that’s the beauty of the Fediverse, you just migrate your account to another instance that isn’t afraid of repercussions or doesn’t have repercussions in their hosting country. There are a few easy to use migration tools out there.

      • SRo@lemmy.sdf.org
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        That’s not the beauty of the fediverse; it’s its greatest weakness. The federation, defederation, blocking of communities and words (world even had a word filter smh) depending on what server you have an account on - this is the shit why the fediverse doesn’t have a chance to get to critical mass. It will never be more than a niche thing on the side.

        No, making hundred accounts on hundreds of instances is not a workable solution.

        • Lemmitor@lemmy.world
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          I think that many users on here are clearly biased and will make arguments defending this aspect of the Fediverse because the users of the Fediverse likely skew on the “techy” side of things. Many times, when I see critiques of this platform that hold it back from being more accessible, I often see replies with some variation of “good, if it’s too easy then we’ll get those people”.

          I think it’s an arrogant attitude that stems from a pointless sense of elitism over people who don’t have the same perceived level of technical skills. There are small, non tech and non political communities on the fediverse that will struggle to grow because of how unapproachable the Fediverse is and because of the gatekeeping that awaits them.

          People visit content aggregators for two primary reasons: 1. Curated and personalized content delivery and 2. Social engagement. For both of those to work, you need people to continuously interact with the platform. That means you need users and you want them to be engaged. If it becomes difficult for people to get the platform to deliver on reason 1 and reason 2, people will lose motivation to engage. And no, people will not care if they can “easily” create a new account on another server to visit an instance that is now blocked because an admin of the server they joined (which, for most new users, is probably whichever they are presented with first) decides to take it upon themselves to make some big moral statement.

          • setVeryLoud(true);@lemmy.ca
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            Personally, I don’t defend the Fediverse. I think it’s still too complicated to reach critical mass. I would like to see an SSO-style sign in where an instance can orchestrate a sign-in with another instance, so you can use your account anywhere.

            I hate elitism, it has been a plight on the Linux community for years. I want the Fediverse and Lemmy to reach critical mass. I want the average Joe to be able to enjoy the Fediverse without having to become tech savvy.

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      On reddit you didnt even have the option to join a new community if it was banned or blocked. This is a better alternative

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      People can talk about piracy all they want here it seems. It’s when folks start giving very direct advice about how and where to do stuff that things turn into a legal grey area for websites. It also helps to not blow up a great source by sharing it all over the internet for the feds and ignorant people to easily find.

      I’ve been on the internet for a long time. Back in my day, we just referred to the where as “the usual places.” Seems that’s not the norm anymore.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      People will just leave instances that act like that. Think of it like evolution to force admins to evolve into creatures that are not a dumbass.

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        Maybe you can host your own private instance and smirk as you block everybody while the rest of us communicate.

        This nonstop suggestion of “hOst yOuR oWn iNstAnCe” is rarely a good solution. They already know it’s an option. You never provide anything when you say it, except to display your own smug smirk as you tell your fellow lemurian to get lost.

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          And they don’t provide anything by whining about having to make accounts on different instances and saying Lemmy is DOOOOOOMED because of it. It’s the nature of the fediverse, deal with it or make your own instance.

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            deal with it or make your own instance.

            We will deal with it by raising concerns among our peers, even as you callously tell us to leave. You make your own instance and leave others to communicate openly without your ugliness.

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      “Growing pains”

      It’s to be expected in this transitional time and period away from corporate social media, towards federated. It sucks, but it’s really not the end of the world. Cool your jets, salty

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        It’s literally the dotworld admins behaving that way. They’re too quick to block. And there’s a pattern of behaviour.