I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don’t, you weren’t paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton’s campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we’re being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election “We’re about to get Brexited.” I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980’s.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They’re the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump’s mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

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    It’s a good point but there is plenty of blame to go around. The democrats have part of the responsibility, but the lions share sits with the republicans.

    The democrats are also at fault for elevating Clinton. She was a poor candidate who was backed by the political establishment. The notion it was “her turn” had already played out with Obama and she lost handily. There were better candidates in the primaries.

    The same problem is happening with Biden. He is a bad candidate but he is being waved through by the party out of a paralysing fear of trump.

    But they’re all symptoms of the extremely broken US electoral system with first past the post, gerrymandering, electoral colleges and politically appointed and elected officials including judges all entrenching the absolute power of 2 parties.

    In my opinion the solution would be at the grass roots with local plebiscites on proportional representation in elections to local and state government, and other positions. That would bring more meaningful change than most of the other propositions that get put on the ballots as it’d allow a route for political opposition to organise into new parties, capture funding and power and gradually build a base to fight and win other elections.

    Unfortunately the 2 main parties have convinced the electorate that the status quo is vital. For example California is a “democrat state” and anything that undermines that is dangerous because the enemy might get in. It’s all bullshit. The rules are being set by the incumbents but actually the whole game needs to change.

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      The real problem is the cap on the size of the house of representatives. If we doubled the size, California would get about 60 more representatives and votes, while states like Wyoming might get one more vote. It would also reduce the cost of campaigning per candidate, because donors aren’t just going to give significantly more money just because more people are running.