Bad bait is bad.

I’m just wondering where all this enthusiasm and energy was when it came to trying to make sure the other bad guy didn’t get elected.

Probably because around 99% of the people using Lemmy already know that Trump is worse, so complaining about it feels irrelevant and like a waste of time. What does it accomplish when everyone already agrees?

When people here complain about the amount of Biden-bashing from leftists, now that actually accomplishes something. What that does is give people who are debating between voting blue, voting third party, or not voting at all (and there are a lot of those people around here) the impression that dedicated Democrat voters don’t care what Democrats do as long as Trump does something worse. This promotes the idea that “both sides are the same” and discourages people from voting blue.

It’s just another reason for them to crucify him.

It’s not too much to ask that the POTUS considers the details of actions they take before taking them. Hell, this is one of the many criticisms people correctly make of Trump. It’s also not too much to expect other politicians take their jobs more seriously than Trump does, or for other politicians to be better than Trump in general (especially when that is literally all that they promise us).

You are correct, it’s clear he doesn’t care. It’s just a shame that the mask-off, nothing to lose Biden still bends over backwards to help Israel commit genocide, commutes this sentence in particular, and pardons his own son while doing nothing that the average American could consider helpful. Mask-off Biden really sucks.

No, they’re a mystery and we’ll never know their identity so we should stop trying to find out.

This is really not helping with the “no personal accomplishments” observation I made earlier. How typical. How boring.

51% in an election with very low turnout is hardly a “landslide”. When you brag about something like this, it just shows people that you have to glom onto something other people did because you have no accomplishments of your own.

Ok. What has he done in his lame duck period, or expressed intention to do, that helps Americans? So far I’ve seen him double down on helping Israel commit genocide and I’ve seen him pardon his son. I’m happy to be convinced otherwise but I’m sure not seeing it now.

If you genuinely think that then you haven’t been reading my comments.

I agree with you that the sentencing was incredibly unjust and clearly politically motivated. I’m just incredibly frustrated that Biden is not doing anything that’s useful to Americans during his last few months in office.

I wouldn’t change a thing because Joe Biden is obviously perfect. If someone disagrees, they must not be smart enough to understand. The solution to that, as all good liberals know, is to shame them until they vote better.

Oh, no, I read your comment asking why Biden should care what Americans want, since so many of us voted Trump. And you’re right! Biden is justifiably disappointed by us and, as a result, has every right as a civil servant to completely ignore us and act entirely out of self-interest until he is out of power. That’s the social contract we make with our elected officials; we elect them and they enact their agenda provided we only do things they personally agree with. When we are naughty, they get to punish us by abandoning the people who got them in power. Basic civics.

No, of course not. He should do the exact opposite. In addition to not doing anything to protect any of the marginalized groups who consistently vote Democrat, he should pose for photo ops with Trump, pardon his own family members, and do nothing to help the unworthy little piggies who couldn’t be bothered to get other people to vote for him or for Kamala. The only circumstances in which we can expect Democrats to behave any better than Republicans is when it comes to respect for decorum, not actual policy.

I don’t know where you’re getting these ideas about my views, I’ve been in total agreement with you about these points this entire time. I’m just making the exact same argument you’re making.

Edit - obvious sarcasm aside, Biden should do things like nominate judges for all those empty seats while the Dems still have the Senate. He should do things like direct the DEA to deschedule cannabis, a move that would be wildly popular with voters on both sides of the aisle and thus seems unlikely to be overturned. You know, helpful things that help people who weren’t lucky enough to be born with the last name “Biden”. He won’t, though. And it’s weird to just jump to January 6th. That’s a weird thing to do.

I’m sorry if you can’t understand my sentiment, even though we are in complete agreement on all of this and I have been quite clear. Yes, absolutely, Biden should do everything to help Trump after insisting, repeatedly, for the past several years that Trump and his agenda are catastrophic threats to American democracy and safety. This will surely help public perception of democrats and their sincerity moving forward.

Are you? When did I say that Biden should do any of those things? I’ve said quite the opposite, we don’t deserve better because Trump won the most votes. That gives Joe Biden a license to spend the last few days in power completely ignoring any expectations that voters, even those who voted Kamala, have for him. After all, if we had only voted harder then we wouldn’t be in this mess, so he has a right to punish us accordingly. This is democracy and this is freedom. We are in agreement on all of this.

I never said that, I said that he has every right to act only out of self-interest for the remainder of his term and do nothing that would help us unworthy peons who didn’t grovel at his feet when we had the chance. After all, and again I agree with you here, Trump certainly would behave no differently which gives Joe Biden and any future democrats every right to do the same and makes us entitled spoiled piggies for expecting anything else.

Oh, again, I totally agree. Trump won’t save Palestine, so we should accept that Biden is also not even trying. We don’t deserve to hold any politician to a higher standard than what Trump can offer. Frankly, if we don’t behave in the way our benevolent leader wants, then they are under no obligation to do anything to improve the country or do anything that their voters want them to do. That’s freedom!

Edit - obvious sarcasm aside, Biden should do things like nominate judges for all those empty seats while the Dems still have the Senate. He should do things like direct the DEA to deschedule cannabis, a move that would be wildly popular with voters on both sides of the aisle and thus seems unlikely to be overturned. You know, helpful things that help people who weren’t lucky enough to be born with the last name “Biden”. He won’t, though. And it’s weird to just jump to January 6th. That’s a weird thing to do.

Oh I think I did, and I couldn’t agree with you more. We no longer deserve to expect anything good or helpful from our benevolent leader Joe Biden since the majority of us voted incorrectly. He has every right to sit on his hands and spend his few remaining days in office helping Israel commit genocide, helping his family get out of felony charges, and doing nothing to protect the nation from the damage Trump is about to cause. We are ungrateful little worms and he has every right to treat us as such.

Yes, which is why Biden deserves to ignore the well-being of the country, including his own voters, and act only out of self-interest for the rest of his presidency. We only deserve politicians who try their best when we the people do what politicians want us to do.

Absolutely. Biden deserves to punish us all for our poor decision-making, and act only out of self-interest for the remainder of his term. That’s the social contract we make with our nation’s civil servants.