The exact point will be the advent of the internet.

For democracy? Yes.

The longer the rubes hold on to this pipe dream that the dems can make a come back the further we will slip and longer it will take to recover. Unfortunately, I don’t think democrat party members will ever give up on the democratic party and they will spend all their political goodwill investing in this farce of a party long after the elections are still free and fair.

Say, free and fair elections survive by some act of god. That doesn’t change the fact the GOP can beat them handley in a free and fair election. The only thing trump needed to cement his win was the Supreme Court to sign off on everything. Given immunity all the road blocks trump had before have been lifted.

We have till January and you will see what the executive is actually capable of, with limp dick biden kicked to the curb.

The terror that will be trumps deportation methods will have your jaw drop and I’m not kidding. We tolerated kids in cages, Abu Ghraib is coming to America and our own sex trafficker and chief will begin some truly despicable shit. You better believe media capture is part of it because there is no way other country’s will be let in on this side of the veil.

I’m not a doomer. It’s not hyperbole. Im not an oracle and would pay my with my own life just to be wrong.

I still am hopeful though that my countrymen can snap out of it and quit dismissing reality in real-time, allowing us an actual chance at resisting this upheaval. If we wait till the midterms though, this shit is cooked, packed, and on the shelf.

If you want to say, look at American history, I’d quickly defer you to the 90s. Whatever we might have once been we are no longer that. We are consumers educated by infomercials who only know reality TV and “influencers”. Coke was the first plague, Springer the second. Followed by real world and road rules. All of this media “culture” stripped us of what it ever ment to be American. No one sits around and wanes intellectual about the founding fathers unless you’re a fashie supreme court justice or Lin-Manuel Miranda. Today, in 2024, the Apprentice is more American than George Washington.

There was a time when a single black women sitting at the front of a bus could change a nation. Today Rosa would hit the front page of reddit on a Wednesday and fall off by the time Europeans woke up to see.

Miss me with your bullshit. You can support the cause now, no matter where you live, or you can be another negative force in a sea of negativity.

I won’t waste my time with you, though, that’s for sure.

Considering everyone I talk to has given up just like the OP, not very far. Hey, it doesn’t have to be that way. You could commit to it right now and spread the word. I’m just one guy who will keep advocating. You could too. If I’m mathing correctly, that would double my efforts.

They could start by shedding any hope of capturing those voters. I can tell you with 100% certainty, based on trump being a convicted felon, there is no attack that will flip them. You have to reach outside current demos and bring your message to them. If they can’t learn this obvious fact thats been lingering for 8 years (shoot someone on mainstreet) they are useless as a political power.

Next is the message. Obviously it has to be about change. Where Harris again failed by clinging to bidens record. The DNC needed to drop current dogmas and level. They would have started by talking like a normal fucking human who doesnt have a scripted line and strategy for everything. Then they would lay out the facts. This is what ‘government can do’ and this is what ‘government can’t do’. This is what YOU the voters need to do to get governement to do what YOU want. Then address what they want! FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE. THEN LAY THEM WITH THE FUCKING PEOPLES ELBOW. “THE PEOPLE HAVE TO BLOW UP THE POLLS TO GET THE FREEDOM OF FINCIAL INDEPENDENCE, IF THERE ISNT COMPLETE HEDGEMONY IN ALL BRANCHES OF GOVERNEMNT THERE WILL NEVER BE MEANINGUFL CHANGE.”

Promise fincaial independence, promise people will never get it if they don’t show. Then we either got as far as the line, “I own gun” or the people show up. Either way, you ran an honest, noble campaign.

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You taking heat for your previous statement is so typical of those giving any criticism of the DNC. You basically went outside and said it’s kinda chilly and someone came up and said, upset, “no! It’s cold.”

You’re not adult, you’re throwing a tantrum. You need to accept this loss was a complete loss. There’s not going to be a righteous come back. Grow the fuck up. They are a sunk cost and I pray 🙏 for you when you come to this realization. You seem to need them.

What the fuck do you care what happens to the dems? They don’t give a shit about you.

The thing is, dems can do whatever they want. We elevated them and they are still weak in face of fascism. It’s easy for them, too. They take their time and plan their little scuttle butt knowing there will be no consequence for them. No matter what little scuffle they get into they will go home to their bags of money and high level connections. What would have happened if the democrats put in a pitbull for an AG? The Republicans get upset? They curse their names and say, “you’ll rue the day.” They already do it. They do it when the dems accidently step on a toe. They do it pretending the dems actually did something or stood for anything. The democrats just cower away, afraid to upset the money train and lose their station. It’s a joke. There’s nothing to gain here. They lost, you don’t understand. This was the off ramp. This was the resistance. It’s a sunk cost. You will waste resources going back to this empty well.

The people you should be taking seriously is the right. They’ve crushed the dems at every impasse. Every power struggle since Regan the right has won out completely. They are playing for keeps and for you now to condescend to me at the height of their power, it’s a fucking joke. You lost. You’ll continue to lose. You’re playing checkers they are stocking ammo.

Fucking joke.

It doesn’t have to be that way, you know.

The morals you espose, come from a place they don’t have. It’s a weight, it’s hard. Lift the weight and toss it aside, it’s holding you back. You don’t have anything left to fear. The worse has happened. There’s no reversing climate change. There is no American democracy to even go back to, it was a rigged game from the start. Unburden yourself. Use that wasted energy for a limp dick party like the democrats and join the rest of us in the new world.

No, it will work if we get your buy in, but youre already 3d chessing yourself out of it. Like, we’ve tried nothing and we are all out of ideas. Literally.

Self fulfilling prophecy.

There is no next time, bub.

Fascism won. The democrats proved they can’t beat fascism, period.

Unions aren’t the sole proprietor of the strike. It’s so disheartening to realize over and over again people like yourself have no imagination. No heart. No ingenuity and have to be constantly shown what is possible.

I disagree entirely. I would see the GOP get a taste of their own medicine and the DNC not be pussy bitches too afraid to serve it. Like it or not, your measured, “adult in the room” shit isn’t working and most people just feel condescended too. It’s of little consequence because what you have yet to accept is the door is shut already and the hissy fit would be honestly the last opportunity for the left to do something.

They won’t.

They’re punk ass bitches.

Just like you.

Neat.

If ir doesn’t matter, do it for the lawls then.

Just del and ctrl-c ctrl-v some other republican chud. It’s just sad.

The one tool Americans refuse to use.

Apparently we haven’t been fucked enough yet. I’m honestly curious how low we will go. I suspect there is no bottom and Americans are just flesh bags trained to seek out meat grinders.