Ultimately, I agree. But what can ya do?

Yeah I’m so owned right now

This is a shitposting sub, and you are a tar pit

Tbf it’s gotta be hard from Ada’s perspective to know how to handle this without pissing multiple people off. It’s a damned if you do/damned if you don’t situation.

A 19684 community was established, which is something I’ve wanted to see here anyway, so you should join up.

Scariest stories. Try not to get Red Scared.

Anyone: “Did you know in China they have this cool thing? Just an interesting cultural difference I thought I’d share. Making new friends and learning about the world on this app is so cool :)”

Someone inevitably: “So you know that as we speak Chinese citizens are being forced at gunpoint to do their hourly salute to the east in honour of Xi Jinping, right? 🙂 And also that they hate you? 🫣 Did you know what they hate you oh my god they hate you so much and are plotting this very moment to get a hold of your ebay browsing data (like all the other american tech corps but wtv 🙄) to undermine our righteous american way of life (which has its itty bitty teeeeeny tiny flaws 😬) but is clearly superior in all ways to China’s constant brutal day to day moment by moment–”

I really hope you start to deconstruct the McCarthy inside of you. Best wishes to you.

China being less free *by every metric invented by econbros in Western Imperialist Nations

And I’m not supporting China. I’m simply saying we’re in no position to be throwing stones.

We’re already living in a single-party state that enslaves and murders POC and indigenous people with impunity, and which bars anyone remotely leftist from residency and citizenship to maintain the status quo. Not sure how that’s better, but go off

Relax, it’s just the numbers spelled out, and 196 still appears on everything else. It’ll be fine, I promise lol

I’m interested in ensuring everyone has equal access to food, shelter, and healthcare

No, I’m talking about the community I moderate on blahaj. It’s explicitly for sharing from a leftist or post-leftist perspective, but the rules have to be strict because otherwise it gets overrun by people wanting to go off-topic.

In addition to this, this particular 196 community is now retired, making matters more confusing. I took a months-long break from Lemmy, and that’s why I forgot to check the community name in my notifs.

Genuinely, in spite of our disagreements, I apologize. I never would have come on so strong if I didn’t think this was Liberty Hub.

That was my bad, and I’m sorry. I thought we were speaking in a completely different community. If I had realized this was the now-defunct 196, I would have stopped talking a long time ago. My bad.

I was confused 🤦‍♀️This is embarrassing

I usually try to avoid discourse on 196, and I need to adhere to that practice.

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This is useless propaganda. I’m familiar with all of these talking points. The metrics used to determine freedom and democracy are invalid tools of Western Imperialist nations to bolster the illusion that we have more freedom that others.

I’m being cautious not to defend either state, but you are treading pretty close to sounding like you’re defending the US system, and I would like to remind you as one of the moderators here that defending inherently inequitable and oppressive systems such as capitalism, fascism, genocide, and imperialism are forbidden in this community.

I intend to migrate to !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone

However, in my opinion it’s a shame it had to come to this.

Less free in this one aspect perhaps, more free in others. Not really “freedom” when we have so many houseless people, people senselessly perishing from lack of healthcare and food, etc.

Also, it sounds like you were protesting for change within the system. People have drastically different experiences when they protest the system itself. They may even be arrested or deported, which is something I’ve personally seen happen. Talk to the anti-genocide protestors on college campuses about this “freedom” of yours. Hell, there are even laws against boycotting a genocidal regime in an organized fashion.

They arrest anyone in the US who protests against the actions of the state.

But I’ll remember when I’m dying from lack of affordable food, housing, and healthcare, that at least I was able to share a few more of my hot takes online than other people.

Anyway, I’m not defending China. I hope you learn to get past the propaganda. It’s quite liberating.

Thank you very much! I feel joy!

Lemmy.world is a rancid instance, and I won’t be joining you. I trust and respect Ada far more than the mod team here. Historically, you’ve allowed so many bad-faith actors here. I just returned, but I know in the past I saw at least one regular here whose alt was banned for queerphobia. He’d constantly stir the pot, and you did nothing. RIP 196, I guess. You’ll learn why this was a bad decision, mark my words.

There are reasons beehaw defederates from lemmy.world