Here is a better article about this change: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/11/stravas-changes-to-kill-off-apps.html

Here is the precise line that sucks: “You may not process or disclose Strava Data, even publicly viewable Strava Data, including in an aggregated or de-identified manner, for the purposes of, including but not limited to, analytics, analyses, customer insights generation, and products or services improvements. Strava Data may not be combined with other customer data, for these or any other purposes."

I use Strava a ton. This update sucks.

Strava has positioned themselves as two things:

1. Social media for fitness
2. Data aggregator with a nice API

So there are a lot of people, like myself, who bike and use a Wahoo bike computer, or bike inside on Zwift, or run outside with a Garmin or Apple watch, and push all those activities to Strava because everything integrates with it.

Then, if you want to, you can easily tap into all that data with another platform like TrainingPeaks or Intervals.icu (I bike more than run but there are more for runners). These platforms do really fun data analytics that Strava doesn’t provide, and also have coaching integrations so your coaches can log in and you can authorize them to see your workout results, which helps them build plans for you.

Two changes from this update fuck up everything:

• Strava data can’t be shared with anyone by a third party app. Even if I want to allow it. I can’t opt in to share my own data with people I deem appropriate. So my coach can no longer see anything about my activities.
• Data pulled from Strava can’t be processed in any way. At all. This isn’t talking about feeding random AI models. Platforms like Intervals.icu, which is run by one guy and just provides lots of useful algorithms and graphs of fitness trends, now can’t do anything if your data comes from Strava. Strava is not implementing anything on their end to replace these. They’re just removing the ability to use implementations made by others.

In short, as a guy who likes training and tracking my fitness, this breaks everything for me. Many many people who casually run or bike or swim or whatever will be in the same boat as me. This sucks.

EDIT:

They have framed this as a user protection. It isn’t. No one could see my data that I hadn’t provided explicit permission for via the third party app of my choosing, after voluntarily entering my own API key.

What this does do is likely set them up to offer a paid API in a few months, so everything that is free and has been free since it’s inception will now cost these third party applications per-request to retrieve. Which is bullshit, because this data is not Strava’s - it’s mine.

This on the heels of their shitty AI summary bot experiment which was not opt-in but opt-out. There’s a 0% chance Strava built their own AI LLM so even while they’re shutting out access I explicitly invited, they’re piping all my workout data, including any activities I mark as private, straight over to OpenAI without my explicit consent unless I go through the effort to opt out.

Don’t think that things like “rescinding your apology” are necessary - just be done. If you can support yourself, and have friends or other people you can emotionally rely on, I would just simply “stop” with your family. Why “rescind your apology”, that will just start another argument for the sake of trying to give yourself some sort of moral high ground, which it aounds like your mother will not acknowledge.

You don’t need to make a statement about it, you don’t need to announce to them some big decision, just move on. Live a happy life. Be you. Don’t include them in that process if they are not going to be a positive part of it.

Ah yes - breaking traffic laws is only matters after someone gets hurt. All fine until then.

Kinda feel like leadership of Texas is pioneering the effort to see how far away from that nomenclature your actions can get.

We are not just like Russia.

We aren’t exceptional though, you got that right. America hasn’t been exceptional in decades.

Was it though?

A billionaire buys or funds a privately owned platform and does with it as he pleases, despite the obviously humanitarian route being something different. Have we really never seen that before?

Whhhhhhy?

This is the same thing. This is the exact same type of platform that will eventually go the same way. This is shooting yourself in the foot once, then aiming the shotgun at the other foot and pulling the trigger thinking that the bullet was a fluke the first time.

There’s a whole question about what I think is most important in AI.

Nothing. AI is not an important part of developing our society. Maybe it could have been, but that was taken over and dominated for profit almost immediately.

You’re talking about Gen Z trends.

Millennials are pretty well aware that they are fucked unless they were born lucky, we’re all just wallowing silently in our depression while wishing we could afford a house.

I mean… It’s not wrong, actually.

Sleep more.

That’s the joke.

Jane Street Capital lost like $100m 8 years ago assuming this would happen and it didn’t.

I’ve started reading the somewhat expansive Cosmere universe of books by Brandon Sanderson.

I like actually reading, but there is a LOT to get through, so I’m reading the series (a couple trilogies, a series of 5 books) in actual print, and listening to the standalone novels in the universe on audio.

It’s actually been a nice day to keep moving through all the different overlapping character lines. One particular character, who I’ll call H, spans the various worlds and stories often. It’s fun reading something about H in one book and then hearing him as the narrator or showing up as a character in the audio book I’m listening to later.

“You’re too hard to hug.”

I’m a muscular dude. This was a complaint from a woman I knew. It was not a compliment, she genuinely refused to hug me when we greeted each other.

SSX Tricky brought up to PS5 graphics.

This is a very odd and out of touch comment with what the game currently is and what is being produced by the devs. Have you even played it recently? All the new Varlamore region stuff is aimed at early and midgame players.

And yes, the game progresses towards grinding endgame encounters… Like every single MMO ever. If you’re friend is a maxed out account farming for ultra rare drops, I don’t think you can say that what he is doing is “the content the game has to offer for people”. What would you prefer instead? What do you think it should be like, if not this?

This comment is the most messed up thing I’ve seen on the internet.

I’m done with this thread now.

Great, I guess, but this is in no way a question.