Of course not - if Xfce has too few people working on it, MATE has even less than them, and Enlightenment has even less than MATE. And note that Enlightenment is not only the desktop environment per se but the E libraries (and those are no regurgitated shit - for example, some car makers have used them on their infotainment systems). I’d think it’d be amazing if those two (or those three) could do a Dragon-ball-z kind of fusion, I think those three have really similar goals. Hell, if that was actually a thing most probably I’d move to that.

I know Xfce folks have submitted patches to GTK over the years, but it’s just that GNOME’s enshittification has pregnated GTK to a point of no return and Xfce devs are very well aware of that (for example, the libadwaita thing).

I’m happy with KDE since 2009. But I’d have a really hard time if I were to choose between those two.

I think I “know” MATE because before KDE I used to use Gnome2 so it feels nostalgic to me. The Applications/Places/System menu was the tits and it beat the shit of whatever start menu you put in front of it, and Gnome’s decision to get rid of it was the stupidest idea ever (among many other of their utterly stupid decisions). I’d really miss that menu if it weren’t for that I got used to associate some keystrokes to launch my favorite apps so I don’t even use a start menu or whatever, rather than Krunner.

On the con side it seems to me MATE is being developed at a slower pace than Xfce’s, and it seems less customizable than it - well, at least for me that’s a con - thought I’m not really a “ricer” or anything I just got used to a certain way to do things on the desktop and I remember having to fiddle with Gconf2 to do stuff like you did with friggin’ Windows Registry editor.

I got to use Xfce back in the day too. It has an Applications/Places menu just so people wouldn’t think they blatantly copied Gnome, but it’s more than 10 years since Gnome got rid of it so I don’t know why they haven’t took it. Xfce feels somewhat more customizable, has the veteran badge and seems to have more developers backing it up.

But it’s being developed with GTK+3/4 so I guess at some point they’ll suffer from the shittificationGnome-ization of GTK and, as I said before in some other post, if I were them I’d move all my shit to the E libraries (even more, I’d do a fusion of the Enlightenment desktop and Xfce). Also I happen to be a graphic designer so the lack of care they have onto some things sticks like a sore thumb to me, like those poorly designed settings dialogs on some stuff that even have some dumb horizontal scrolling just because they couldn’t care less about that.

Not knowing how anything works

I mean, that’s how you start learning stuff - not knowing how something works

Being scared by errors that you don’t know how to get around or deal with

Isn’t that the case for every OS in existence? When something breaks, you don’t know how to deal with it. Enter google/ddg/whatever

Not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly

See point 1 - and yet there are Linux apps that let you do things quicker than Windows stuff. I can’t imagine myself at this point having to use frigging photoshop to crop or add a border to a image when you could do that with a ´magick -crop´

Wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?

Wasn’t that the whole point of live images? Not that they will charge you for downloading them. And hardware support is infinitely better today than back in the day. Just look at what the folks at asahi did - that’s nothing short of incredible

I remember reading about it like 10 years ago along with LunarLinux (e: and sorcerer) as was curious about other source based linux distros. I thought both were dead, glad that at least sourcemage is still alive

Still it’s ridiculous they only allow submissions via a gitlab account. Oh and not only whatever gitlab account - it has to be done with one created in that instance. Same thing for voting!

And if that wasn’t ridiculous enough, there’s all those requeriments for people submitting their wallpaper.

When I learned about the contest thought about doing one and submitting it, but with all those limitations? Not even an email to send your wallpaper? Forget it. Not even sure why they announce this contests in the first place.

Gentoo because I like it.

And portage.

I tried to do a couple of icon sets that went with that trend for KDE. At one point I was involved with the KDE VDG and was about to set the style of the icons they’d use.

But apparently some suit told them they needed to go completely flat as they needed to plaster Firefox/distros/whatever logos on it, so everything needed to look consistent.

So in the end I got bored about it and stepped away. I’m trying to redo a new square-shaped-skeumorphed icon set but it’s so much work - like it’d need to be your daily job to pull it off.

However, if you take a look at it, it’s already in this one - some of them are just the base shape with some logo plastered on it (like the whatsapp one, or the one with the butterfly) and voilá, there’s your icon.

So icon sets are incredibly hard, and if you want a skeumorphism icon set its hard squared. That’s another of the reasons flat icons thrive today.

some tar.gz archive with a sketchy install script

I just can’t… like maybe I’m too old and that’s why I still can’t wrap my head around how we went from “./configure && make & make install scripts are almost the de facto way to install software in linux” to “a sketchy install script”. We’re living interesting times at Linux

It says it uses webkit, so does Epiphany, so most probably it’s based on it.

Whatever it takes to have a fr🤮nch-free system

(commenting so someone corrects me and so they reply your question) i guess they will work on it when they port it to Qt6? I heard they will be porting Krita eventually but haven’t heard when they’re going to do it.

I did not know Krita does not have Wayland though, I used to use it with Wayland without any problems whatsoever so not sure what that means

Mozilla does not look any reliable for people that loves FOSS, yet our current web seems like it’s either Firefox/Gecko or Chrome/Chromium browsers. I wish people were more aware of emergent projects like Servo or Ladybird - even better if they could donate to them. I’m positive either of them could be a serious competitor to the Chrome hegemony.

I still remember looking at it (with its super cool sports car illustration) at the top result(s) at Sourceforge (when Sourceforge was the hub for all things open source, back in 2006), downloading each update from whatever computer from uni and bringing it back home to doddle stuff. Inkscape always was in my top 5 tools for uni along with GIMP (and Krita afterwards), Imagemagick, ConTeXt and MetaPost.

Wanted to join the wallpaper contest but it has to be only and only through a Gitlab account, and the requeriments are rather limiting - and, specially, not a fan of contests that are decided by thumbs-up (or heart emojis, like in this case)

Colombian here - as you might know, most people here are catholic.

A bit of story.

My mother says her eldest brother was like the evil on earth. He raped her younger sisters, used to beat up all of them – his younger brother grew up with serious mental issues because of that, and now we are having issues trying to get him into an asylum because, again, third world problems - stole the house and land of their parents (which wasn’t a lot, but left my mother and her sisters with nothing when their father died) and even treated violently my grandmother. I never got to know my grandparents because they died when my mother was young.

So my mother says one night my grandmother was really ill and this person (I have never seen him, not even in pictures) arrived home and beat her up and went to sleep. Then allegedly “the spirits” (“las almas”) came when he was asleep and beat him up so hard he screamed and woke everyone up - like they could see how “the spirits” lifted him across the room and hit him violently, but never could see any of those “spirits”.

A few weeks or months after that my grandmother died and all of my aunts had to get miserable jobs trying to survive and this bastard still showed up from time to time to steal the few bucks they could earn.

Eventually all of them (except my uncle) got married and all of them but the elder sister never saw him ever again.

Now I’m atheist and don’t believe in this kind of stuff, but the saying is that “the souls” do that kind of thing to really awful people. So if Carson’s incident is true (and if “the souls” exist and are able to do that), now you may have a possible explanation for that.

I’m doas team and now I feel hungry

Last time I talked about Thunderbird here on Lemmy (and was downvoted because, allegedly, Thunderbird and K-9 are the exact same app, according to android@lemmy.world), I seem to recall it was however mentioned one of the differences between the two is that Thunderbird was going to include setup for Google play subscriptions (whatever that is)…

To be fair E always had great potential (I recall reading somewhere some car makers use it in their infotainment UIs), but alas doesn’t have the manpower to keep it at the same pace as some other DEs, even much newer than it. If I were Xfce and got the last straw of the GNOME-ization of GTK I’d rewrite all my shit with the E libraries - hell, it would be awesome if those two merged together.

It’s been a while since I used to use Gimp una daily basis (well, since I graduated from uni, now more than 10 years ago) - and even then there was talk about Gimp 3.0 “in the works and soon to be released”. That’s why the 3.0 release has become like a meme.

I don’t use it anymore and it’s been a while too since I cared about it. But still if they’re getting more developers involved it’s the best improvement they can make imho, even better than any feature they can cram on it. It’s not the lack of resources or the few time their devs have to work on it - it’s their tribalism and ultradefensiveness to even the mildest constructive criticism.

It’s utterly ridiculous they get so defensive when someone asks them about the reason you can’t draw a circle or a rectangle in Gimp as easily as you can with frigging Microsoft Paint. I am yet to know the reason about that.

Last time I tried to express my views about the Gimp’s UX issues at r/linux one of its devs answered almost immediately and tried to lecture me about how everything is in the source code and that they’re not hiding anything and that I was trying to do FUD stuff with them. On top of that absolute nonsense, Reddit being Reddit, I ended downvoted to oblivion just because. What has that to do with being humble and accepting Gimp has plenty of room to improve? Who knows.

Hope that absurd panorama changes with new brains involved in it and Gimp can do that giant leap and keeps improving for the better because, seriously, the biggest issue with Gimp is not its lack of manpower. If you don’t believe me just look at what Krita was when it was “Krayon” and shipped with Koffice, and what it is now.

Ain’t that what edgelord “comedy” is all about, tho?