No. Hell, no. I was a scientist. We are human too. There’s a lot of dogmatic scientists with their pet theories who will never admit they’re wrong. Many also falsify results in the chase of publish or perish. Don’t make the same mistake by deifying science.
Except when other humans try to recreate the results (the key part of the scientific process is peer review) and fail they can claim your full of shit.
Just look at all the people claiming to achieve cold fusion. They get ripped apart by the scientific community for posting dog water.
Science is something that is done exclusively by humans. It is designed to try to work around our cognitive biases and faulty perceptions. Everything about science is everything to do with human traits.
That’s not what I’m talking about. As you note, the scientific method does not even attempt to deal with bad faith. It attempts to deal, imperfectly, with the myriad of stupid things a perfectly normal human being in good faith inevitably does. It is not required for people to consciously falsify data for science to come up with false conclusions. Science aspires to be objective, but it is not. It’s just somewhat more objective than we can be without it.
The scientific method looks the way it does because it reflects the needs of human intellect and psychology. It is just one formulation and another species, or even another culture would no doubt come up with another.
It is not required for people to consciously falsify data for science to come up with false conclusions.
This is true, but even if it unintentionally falsifies data, other discoveries with correct data will reveal that this other data is wrong, so this theory will be put under question, to see if it holds water. If it doesn’t, than that theory is rejected.
That is what science does, it corrects itself if new more correct data is presented, thus striving for perfection.
The idea is to know everything about everything. This is of corse the goal, which is practically unachievable.
No. Hell, no. I was a scientist. We are human too. There’s a lot of dogmatic scientists with their pet theories who will never admit they’re wrong. Many also falsify results in the chase of publish or perish. Don’t make the same mistake by deifying science.
That has nothing to do with science and everything to do with human traits.
Except when other humans try to recreate the results (the key part of the scientific process is peer review) and fail they can claim your full of shit.
Just look at all the people claiming to achieve cold fusion. They get ripped apart by the scientific community for posting dog water.
And that is why we have peer review, so dogshit doesn’t make it as cold hard fact into science.
Science is something that is done exclusively by humans. It is designed to try to work around our cognitive biases and faulty perceptions. Everything about science is everything to do with human traits.
Science is meant to be objective, not subjective. If you falsify results, then human traits corrupt it, which means that that is no longer science.
That’s not what I’m talking about. As you note, the scientific method does not even attempt to deal with bad faith. It attempts to deal, imperfectly, with the myriad of stupid things a perfectly normal human being in good faith inevitably does. It is not required for people to consciously falsify data for science to come up with false conclusions. Science aspires to be objective, but it is not. It’s just somewhat more objective than we can be without it.
The scientific method looks the way it does because it reflects the needs of human intellect and psychology. It is just one formulation and another species, or even another culture would no doubt come up with another.
This is true, but even if it unintentionally falsifies data, other discoveries with correct data will reveal that this other data is wrong, so this theory will be put under question, to see if it holds water. If it doesn’t, than that theory is rejected.
That is what science does, it corrects itself if new more correct data is presented, thus striving for perfection.
The idea is to know everything about everything. This is of corse the goal, which is practically unachievable.
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What is up with theses? It feels like the religious trolls are here again… Worse even than reddit. The false equivalence here is insane.
except… peer revue…
Yeah… sure… peer review… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Tm3Yx4HWI