Yeah, but $200,000 for Trump feels like a joke. It should be more in line with his income to be meaningful.
Well, judging by his tax returns his income isn’t much to brag about.
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Sure, but all his money goes to his lawyers. Or maybe not. Only one I know who’s actually gotten paid by Trump is Stormy Daniels.
Exactly. If he wasn’t rich before he is now just from his campaign funds.
And from charging the SS for room and board.
I don’t think he handed out those state secrets for free either. They at least paid for rooms in his hotel.
We aren’t even sure those are real as well. It’s why NY was prosecuting him for tax fraud.
To be honest it probably is just he continues to spew his is a billionaire so it should be a billion dollars see what happens. 200k is a joke.
That was probably true before he became President but I doubt it is anymore. He spent his entire term lining his pockets with as much taxpayer money as possible… And that’s not even taking into account the fact that he’s been campaigning this entire time to fund his legal defense against the numerous criminal and civil cases against him.
We’re talking about a dude that would cash a check for 13 cents tho. Soo…
And in Georgia, you only have to post 10%.
I keep seeing this, so I wanted to clear up some details:
- Bail isn’t a penalty, it is an incentive to return for trial (to get your money back). Bail was waived for Trump in previous cases because not only is he constantly followed by Secret Service, he is a high profile person who won’t be able to hide for long anywhere in the world.
- Bail is typically a tenth (or less) of what Trump was given for even some violent felonies.
- You must pay the entire amount to be released on bail, unless you get a bail bond.
- A bail bond is when a third party agrees to pay the bail amount if you do not show up for trial. The 10% frequently cited is a fee to the bail bondsman for taking this risk. You still have to provide some kind of collateral to the bondsman to cover the remainder of the bail amount.
- You don’t get the 10% back. If you have the cash to cover bail, it makes sense to use it because then you can get it all back.
Trump getting a bail bond would be a public admission that he doesn’t have the cash. He’ll find the cash.
You must pay the entire amount to be released on bail, unless you get a bail bond.
Reporting I’ve seen is that in the jurisdiction which Trump is charged in Georgia, you only have to post 10% to the court. Presumably, if you then abscond, you are on the hook for the remainder.
EDIT: Reporting I have seen appears to be wrong; parent commenter appears to be correct:
Another edit:
Hmm. I’m looking at Eastman’s jail record, and all of his charges say “Disposition: 10% bond.” So I really don’t know.
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Yeah, I looked over the article and they say this, but I can’t find a single reference to that program outside of articles about Trump. Odd.
Even the article doesn’t say if the 10% is returned. Maybe the FC Sheriff has in-house bail bonding.
I saw your initial reply and looked into it, edited the above. I think you’re right and the reporting is wrong. I’ve seen wrong reporting on other aspects of this situation, too, so this is not a surprise to me. That’s why my initial reply was in reference to “reporting I’ve seen.” I already had my doubts.
I think that’s most places.
The parent poster is still technically correct.
No they aren’t. The 10% is the fee you pay the bail bondsmen to put up the entire amount so you can get out of jail. The courts need the entire amount before they’ll let you go, but you don’t have to go through a bondsman.
Is the entire bond amount forfeited when the defendant doesn’t turn up, or is it returned if they are later caught? Like if Trump pays $20K to the bondsman, the bondsman posts the $200K to the court, and Trump runs - presumably the bondsman sends a bounty hunter after him (paid out of the $20K?) so when they hand Trump in the bondsman gets their $200K back (but now has less than $20K profit)?
From the link:
The bond agreement, which also states Trump must not attempt to intimidate any potential witnesses, said that the former president can post bond as cash, commercial surety or through Fulton County’s Jail 10 percent program, whereby Trump can pay 10 percent of the bail if agreed by the Fulton County Sheriff’s office.
Is that the same thing? Is the county providing bond services?
Not clear. I searched and cannot find any reference to this program. I’m going to guess they do bonds in-house, and this is the standard fee. Otherwise it would undermine the bail set by the judge.
Yeah, the county is providing the bond services, but there’s been some doubt about that excerpt since that information is apparently only found in the news articles about Trump.
I hope he doesn’t. He’ll bury himself into a mountain of new trouble. But even he is not that stupid.
Or maybe he’ll flee to Russia. Which is fine for me too, let him expose himself as a traitor and eliminate the possibility of holding office again.
CIA and USSS would never let him flee to russia.
They wouldn’t stop him. More than Half of them would probably help him do what he wants to do
But would his secret service allies really be willing to move to Russia with him?
Would an ally be willing to go to prison for decades? A reasonable person would say of course not, but here we are. If someone is an ally of Trump’s, they clearly left reality long ago
They weren’t able to stop Snowden. Trump has resources, if anyone in his proximity has half a brain he might have a shot.
Are you seriously comparing the asset value of Snowden to that of trump?
Yes, you can compare anything. I’m not saying they’re equal, but it does show the CIA isn’t some omnipotent organisation that never fucks up.
For example. Oranges are routinely shipped between countries by simply following tariff laws therefore you can easily draw the parallel that Trump is a flight risk simply if Sunkist declares him in their manifest.
Yeah but Snowden wasn’t a former president with a lifetime Secret Service detail.
We are talking here about a former US president charged under the Espioange Act.
The Espiorange Act? Sunkist is a terrorist organization?
Wasn’t Snowden already out of country when he leaked? Seems a lot different.
Snowden has already left the country to Singapore if memory serves before he even gave the stolen docs to journos.
They would have had no reason to chase him until that point. Then he went to Russia.
I wonder if we will ever get him back, what the US and Russia might trade for him.
Snowden became a Russian citizen, so I don’t he’s up for trading.
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I’m curious what makes you think he’s not that stupid.
His ego is greater than his stupidity. Fleeing will be an admission of losing - that would break him mentally
I don’t think we’re up to the Russian vacation yet, not until we get closer to sentencing.
Careful he might be the first president working remotely. From russia.
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The same secret service that accidentally deleted all their texts from Jan 6?
Oh he’s that stupid.
Does it feel like the news is all opinion pieces these days? All I see is “someone said something on Twitter” lately.
This is the politics community, not news, so opinion pieces are fair game.
But yeah, even so, I hate how even “news” articles are “elon posted something on twitter”.
I suspect it’s a function of engagement. Trump’s edictments are hot, so some will click on anything vaguely related to it. Even reporting on chirping does the trick since people want more of the “story” even though it’s not a development.
Sure, but that doesn’t mean we have to perpetuate it.
Politics and sports journalism.
The steep decline in money available to publishers means that they’re going to cut reporting in favor of paying an intern to copy and paste off of twitter. You end up with twenty different publications summarizing the same AP article with one paragraph, the. a dozen hot takes on twitter by people you’ve never heard of.
And we’re reaching the point where they don’t even need the intern to do it.
What? You don’t want to hear about the latest thing Elon Musk said/did on/with Twitter?
If I did I’d go back to /r/technology
But then how will you know that Elon Musk started charging per vowel?
It’s the 24-hour news cycle and the drive for constant content. Nothing of value just content. They’ll tell you the same thing thousands of times. Over and over again drilling it into you. Reporting on he said she said inanity. In Pursuit of an agenda.
Try reading a reputable news outlet instead of social media
Very few left my friend, very few.
“Some words”
- A Dude
Lock. Him. Up.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The $200,000 bond approved for Donald Trump in the Georgia election interference case is significant as it suggests the former president “cannot be trusted” to surrender to authorities for processing, according to a legal expert.
Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee approved the amount for the former president on Monday, the first time Trump has been asked to post bond in any of the four criminal cases he is involved in.
Discussing the bond arrangement, former Deputy Assistant Attorney General Harry Litman said that while the amount of money is not an issue for the former president, it is noteworthy that Judge McAfee should take steps to ensure that Trump does hand himself in.
But the bigger provision is the anti tampering condition—he can’t do anything to intimidate any co-deft or witness or otherwise obstruct the administration of justice," Litman posted on X, formerly Twitter.
The former president is not allowed to communicate with witnesses or any of the 18 other co-defendants in the case, which includes his former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and his ex-personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, except through his lawyers.
Trump was previously accused of witness intimidation via his Truth Social posts by legal experts after suggesting that former Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan shouldn’t testify to a grand jury just prior to the Fulton County indictment being announced.
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More like: Trump violates bond condition, new bond set, Trump appeals new bond saying that conditions violate his free speech, all lawyers working for him ask for a delay in other trials because of this appeal.
They shouldn’t have even set one. It’s just gonna make his base donate.
Trump still has his passport. He is flying out to Saudi Arabia or israel where the US can’t touch him.
You might need to update your list of countries outside of the US’ sphere of influence - those are both close allies. :)
Yes and no
Close allies? Yes
Able and willing to tell the US to fuck off if they feel like it? Also yes.
Both also have a lot of power/sway over the US.
Sure - but I doubt they’d use that to protect trump’s sorry ass. :)
Yeah, they’re not going to protect a fleeing fugitive who isn’t useful to them anymore.
Man is going to Russia for sure.
When’s he going to do something that allows the cops to just shoot him?
Wrong color.
havent you heard orange is the new black.
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You know a racist made that meme, right?
There’s a reason one of the words is not like the others.
when he turns black
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He will just to be a martyr and bask in it.
Plus the mug shot will be plastered all over his campaign as a badge of pride and people will buy tons of merch with it.
Going to try and make more trump nft’s?
I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure NFTs can’t own things.
Oh no, I was saying he would turn his mugshot into an NFT.
It was the possessive apostrophe.
I blame autocorrect
Isn’t that the entire point of pre-trial detention?
We got a runner…
“… something of an indignity that he has to post something”
LAWL… that a former PRESIDENT has to post BOND because he’s considered at risk of fleeing the REPUBLIC… yeah, something of an indignity… that’s exactly what Washington would have said…
on racketeering charges no less… while still in office… against a state…
if you trusted him your head is on upside down AND backwards… get a friend or a priest to knock it off for you, so you can put it back on straight…
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Meh. Random lawyer saying things.
Then again, this is trump and you know he’s dumb as a rock and always ready to put up a show.
Then again, please please don’t show up. I want to watch a SWAT team kick in his door and drag him out screaming “I thought this was America! MAGAFLGHH” and then a cop puts a knee in his neck. I know, will never happen, bit wouldn’t that be fun for a change
Interesting example on the importance of proper N- and M-dash usage
