• gedaliyah@lemmy.worldM
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    8 months ago

    I disagree, but at least you are understanding the correct meaning of proportionality and we can have a discussion.

      • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldM
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        8 months ago

        While it is impossible to have an accurate count, the best estimates are that about 1/3 of those killed have been combatants. The UN estimates 90% civilian casualties across all wars. The Iraq war was similar in that it involved urban, embedded terror groups and modern technology. The civilian casualty ratio was 77%. This war is in line with other conflicts of the past 50 years.

        It is still a terrible tragedy. War is always a tragedy.

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          8 months ago

          50 years is a long time, improved technology should reduce civilian casualties not keep them in line.

          Iraq was a military failure, Israel’s assault on Gaza is a military failure, and the world needs to recognize it.

          • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldM
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            8 months ago

            True. Unfortunately, I’m not sure that we have yet seen what a military success looks like in the Middle East.

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              8 months ago

              Leaving the middle east, as politically caustic as the idea may be, its the only viable path to military success in the region.

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          7 months ago

          The Iraq war was fought against a standing military. The follow-on counter insurgency was far less lethal to civilians. Call us when Hamas is running T-80 Tank Divisions.