is the man or bear thing rhetorically or optically the perfect feminist meme that is beyond criticism? no.

but is it leaps and bounds better at getting men to understand the material consequences of patriarchy on the physical and emotional health of women than that stupid “kill all men” meme from last decade? definitely.

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    Dude the entire point of the “#AllMen” and “#YesAllMen” was that women need men’s help to police shitty behaviour from other men.

    Half the point of the bear meme is that men hide their power level from women until it’s too late.

    Why is it suddenly different when someone suggests women do their part?

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          For sure! many such cases on the internet ❤️ have a good one

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      Because—and I’ll say this slowly for you—in this scenario, women are the victims.

      Would you demand that the victim of a mugging do their part to stop the mugger from mugging?

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        Women aren’t universally victims. They are not some sort of angelic holy being incapable of wrong. They’re human beings.

        Isn’t that the whole point of feminism? To treat women like people? Not livestock to be protected?

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            What scenario? Have you even read the thread you’re in?

            Should I try being patronising too? Would it help?