• The Pantser@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    When will we hold owners responsible? We have started holding parents responsible for their kids actions we need to do the same for dogs.

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        6 months ago

        Should be murder charges.

        Edit regardless of breed, your dog is an extension of you.

        Edit edit Like as if you killed someone while drunk driving.

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          6 months ago

          Drunk driving has an incomparably higher fatality rate though. (Like 1 in 600 vs pits’ 1 in 500,000)

          And you can’t be charged with murder for drunk driving. That’s reckless homicide.

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            6 months ago

            The rate doesn’t matter one fucking bit. Death is death.

            Regarding the specific definition, fine, I was speaking colloquially. I’d be excited if vicious dog owners got that charge, at minimum.

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              6 months ago

              Everything has some rate of death. That doesn’t make it reckless. Are you saying anyone who owns another dog or who rides a bikes or who has a tree in his yard or who cooks food or who performs surgery which leads to someone’s death should also get [5–10 years in prison] no matter what?

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                6 months ago

                I’m saying you are responsible for your actions and your property.

                If you drive drunk, or negligently shoot someone there are serious consequences.

                If you ride a bike recklessly and smoke a pedestrian there are consequences.

                If your tree falls on your neighbors house there are consequences.

                Edit Surgeons have malpractice insurance and can still have charges brought against them based on their behavior.

                Edit They aren’t always the same consequence, because society has determined a responsibility level with each type of action.

                I believe if you have a dog capable of killing, and it does so, it should be as if you killed. Same as drunk driving. The specific charge may not be murder, that varies by jurisdiction.