• filoria@lemmy.ml
    cake
    OP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    92
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    6 months ago

    All the complaints about supposed violations of international law that the US has made in the past really ring hollow now that Johnson has said the quiet part out loud: international bodies are designed to control the “impoverished, barbaric” Global East and South, not the “enlightened” Global West.

      • ShadowRam@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        30
        ·
        6 months ago

        Well they did set a precedent when they walked into Iraq against the international bodies wishes.

        All the big players learned that if the US won’t play ball, they won’t either.

        • applepie@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          15
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          “rules based international order” we shill relied on appearances of propriety, the more the US acts in this fashion the quicker the system is getting eroded.

          Current “leadershIp” is willing to lose a lot face here for a foreign state, which is rather perplexing from national security and sovereignty perspective. What is the US winning here? And if we are not getting anything in return, then why are we supporting Israel’s war crimes at our expense?

          • AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            23
            ·
            6 months ago

            Israel serves many purposes for the US.

            Its our casus belli on a stick against Iran.

            Its our nuke in a black box against Russia and China

            Its our staging ground for when this whole climate change dealio gets sorted out and we need somewhere new to drill.

            It’s a bunch of white enough people we can defend against any new terror organization that miraculously appears where we wanted to invade.

            Its our theocratic imperative to kick off Armageddon.

            It’s a place we can subtly suggest all our domestic Jews move to.

            It funds the most regressive and hawkish politicians in our government.

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              24
              ·
              6 months ago

              It’s our laboratory for new mass surveillance and border control technology.

              It’s our training ground for LEOs, FBI, ICE, ect. who literally go to Israel to learn urban warfare tactics.

              It’s our unsinkable aircraft carrier in the most oil rich region in the world.

              It’s our shield of plausible deniability when we want to act against our enemies without drawing backlash at home or abroad.

              Israel really is the gift that keeps on giving!

            • qprimed@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              6 months ago

              pretty comprehensive answer. definitely a strong nominee for the go-to comment every time this question pops up.

      • intelshill@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        6 months ago

        Everyone thinks they’re above international bodies, but most don’t pretend that they don’t think so.

  • psvrh@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    38
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    I mean, other than Exxon, Shell or BP.

    And the Knesset.

    And Putin.

    But other than that!

  • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    That’s why international relations and treaties are hard, since anyone can just decide they don’t want to honor them any more. You need to make it enticing for all parties to stay committed somehow.

  • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    6 months ago

    Pissing off the International Community is how we Strengthen Our Defenses AGAINST Terror Attacks!

  • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    Sovereignty has been one of the biggest bullshit propaganda tells in recent times. 99% of the time, anyone who uses it is bullshitting you and probably doesn’t know what it even means.