This is just bad science. Did your dad and grandad also speak multiple languages and belong to an organization that has splintered into factions, some of which whose purpose is to try to destroy all good will and faith built with marginalized communities?
My mom at least speaks multiple languages and for over 20 years of knowing English she thought that maggot was the slur and the word with the hard f sound that rhymes with maggot was the acceptable one to say. It wasn’t until I corrected her behavior did she actually know it was wrong. She will still drop the f-word because the word association has been long since made but at least she apologizes and corrects herself now.
See now we have conflicting anecdotes and the glaring question gets ignored.
Nice job trying to excuse and downplay homophobia. I’m old as fuck, and we’ve known for a very long time these words were harmful. If your family just accepted the norm at the time and upheld a status quo that harmed and erased queer people, and then never changed to the point that they would just stop, then fuck them. They’re bigots, and they’re not good people.
And yes, I have family who speak English, Spanish, Korean, Swedish, and Norwegian, and only the completely dogshit ones who I’d never claim or associate with are bigots.
Fuck the pope, and fuck everyone who’s making excuses for him being a bigot.
Only been about 20 years since the push against using slurs. It’s shocking now to watch movies from 2010 and earlier because it’s so prevalent. How far we’ve come as far as respecting other people really obscures how long it really has been.
Really was an honest mistake, I didn’t find out she had mixed up the slur and word for larva of order Diptera until I audited her teaching class. The other educator with me didn’t even react and told me she had been doing it for as long as she knew her. Not her students, not the parents or other teachers ever bothered to correct her. She loved teaching about the life cycle of flies but her fear of accidentally slipping a slur killed that passion.
I’m not apologizing for the pope nor bigots at large. Just saying that there are circumstances in which someone who appears to be one thing isn’t, and you should be suspicious of being told what someone else looks like if you can’t see for yourself.
Why stop just at him? If death and destruction is how you get your kicks then why not hope for the elimination of an entire people too? If you get rid of all the Catholics and religious people do you think you will get rid of all the hate? What about all the people who don’t need to hate in the name of god, like you?
Tbh the word he used is not that bad, or at least is used in many contexts in informal conversation, but only in very few I would consider it a “slur”. I wouldn’t say it translates well to English.
Dude I am from Rome, I want to see the Vatican in flames since way before people got upset from a very small thing among the many more serious reasons.
Few months ago when the Pope made timid openings to the LGBTQ community he was celebrated as a revolutionary. I am just saying, the word itself is not that bad and if this is the reason you feel such anger, and not the fact that the Church is an institution who did so many atrocious things (instituzionalized misogyny and homophobia among the many), then your judgment is just poor and you are getting angry for the wrong reason.
Yikes. Lecturing a gay person about how homophobia is not a big deal is not a good look.
And idgaf where you’re from, homophobe. You’re a gross and disgusting person.
If you live in Rome, maybe you can [redacted] the pope, who is a queerphobe. I’ve never celebrated him. I’d never celebrate that ghoul or his organized hate group with all its brainwashed fools
So you have problems reading I guess. I am saying the slur is not the problem (because it’s not that bad in this instance), the institutionalized homophobia is one of the many systemic problems of the church that is not going anywhere even if you get a pope that speaks using pronouns.
So take a chill pill, being gay or even being right doesn’t give you the right to be a nasty person.
Cheers
And I’m not the nasty person in this situation. You are, because you’re defending the use of a slur and lecturing a queer person how I should feel about it.
You are a disgusting person. No wonder you love defending homophobic “people” like the pope.
It’s a funny thing, though. My dad is an old man, and I’ve never heard him use a homophobic slur.
thats probably because he wasnt used to saying them when he was younger
also people’s mental health varies and your dad might still have better mental health
It seems ableist to assume someone’s mental health is what causes homophobia
My grandpa had dementia when he died and thought I was his brother, and I also never heard him say queerphobic words
This is just bad science. Did your dad and grandad also speak multiple languages and belong to an organization that has splintered into factions, some of which whose purpose is to try to destroy all good will and faith built with marginalized communities?
My mom at least speaks multiple languages and for over 20 years of knowing English she thought that maggot was the slur and the word with the hard f sound that rhymes with maggot was the acceptable one to say. It wasn’t until I corrected her behavior did she actually know it was wrong. She will still drop the f-word because the word association has been long since made but at least she apologizes and corrects herself now.
See now we have conflicting anecdotes and the glaring question gets ignored.
Cui bono?
Nice job trying to excuse and downplay homophobia. I’m old as fuck, and we’ve known for a very long time these words were harmful. If your family just accepted the norm at the time and upheld a status quo that harmed and erased queer people, and then never changed to the point that they would just stop, then fuck them. They’re bigots, and they’re not good people.
And yes, I have family who speak English, Spanish, Korean, Swedish, and Norwegian, and only the completely dogshit ones who I’d never claim or associate with are bigots.
Fuck the pope, and fuck everyone who’s making excuses for him being a bigot.
Only been about 20 years since the push against using slurs. It’s shocking now to watch movies from 2010 and earlier because it’s so prevalent. How far we’ve come as far as respecting other people really obscures how long it really has been.
Really was an honest mistake, I didn’t find out she had mixed up the slur and word for larva of order Diptera until I audited her teaching class. The other educator with me didn’t even react and told me she had been doing it for as long as she knew her. Not her students, not the parents or other teachers ever bothered to correct her. She loved teaching about the life cycle of flies but her fear of accidentally slipping a slur killed that passion.
I’m not apologizing for the pope nor bigots at large. Just saying that there are circumstances in which someone who appears to be one thing isn’t, and you should be suspicious of being told what someone else looks like if you can’t see for yourself.
I hope the Pope gets killed instantly and horrifically. I need some uplifting news.
Why stop just at him? If death and destruction is how you get your kicks then why not hope for the elimination of an entire people too? If you get rid of all the Catholics and religious people do you think you will get rid of all the hate? What about all the people who don’t need to hate in the name of god, like you?
No the churches can all burn though with all the queerphobes and church leaders inside, ridding the world of a violent hate group forever <3
Tbh the word he used is not that bad, or at least is used in many contexts in informal conversation, but only in very few I would consider it a “slur”. I wouldn’t say it translates well to English.
The pope is a queerphobe though and he should perish
Pope dying unfortunately only means another one will come. I wish it was this easy…
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Dude I am from Rome, I want to see the Vatican in flames since way before people got upset from a very small thing among the many more serious reasons.
Few months ago when the Pope made timid openings to the LGBTQ community he was celebrated as a revolutionary. I am just saying, the word itself is not that bad and if this is the reason you feel such anger, and not the fact that the Church is an institution who did so many atrocious things (instituzionalized misogyny and homophobia among the many), then your judgment is just poor and you are getting angry for the wrong reason.
Yikes. Lecturing a gay person about how homophobia is not a big deal is not a good look.
And idgaf where you’re from, homophobe. You’re a gross and disgusting person.
If you live in Rome, maybe you can [redacted] the pope, who is a queerphobe. I’ve never celebrated him. I’d never celebrate that ghoul or his organized hate group with all its brainwashed fools
So you have problems reading I guess. I am saying the slur is not the problem (because it’s not that bad in this instance), the institutionalized homophobia is one of the many systemic problems of the church that is not going anywhere even if you get a pope that speaks using pronouns.
So take a chill pill, being gay or even being right doesn’t give you the right to be a nasty person. Cheers
The slur is honophobic, and that’s a problem.
And I’m not the nasty person in this situation. You are, because you’re defending the use of a slur and lecturing a queer person how I should feel about it.
You are a disgusting person. No wonder you love defending homophobic “people” like the pope.
I hope you burn.