That’s very much fine by me, I’m a man who votes for women or men depending on what they promise (and how much I believe they’ll keep their promise). I specifically said “vote women because they’re women”.
Oh of course everyone but this commenter. The commenter is the one perfectly logical human and they just thought they’d be kind and impart some of their deep wisdom upon us /s
Like, just go Google and you’ll see discussions where people urge others that they should vote for a woman? For example, during the last elections in my country there was a campaign “circle a woman” (circling is giving your preference vote towards a singular candidate instead of just voting for a party, not sure if there’s some equivalent where you live).
Do you see it on lemmy? I’ve never encountered this and it feels weird to say that you’re combatting hypocrisy when you’re not in the arena in which it actually takes place.
Might be getting downvotes because it’s a straw man argument. It presupposes that women are voting for women because of their gender. I myself don’t know if that’s true. And “women” is such a large voting bloc that looking at median behaviors seems unproductive.
I think some women are looking for representatives who will defend their right to live and not bleed out or be injured for life by voting for candidates that support access to reproductive care, along with other issues that matter to them. Women on the left, like VP Harris, put forward full-throated support for that. But maybe I’m naive?
It presupposes that women are voting for women because of their gender.
Nah, it asks if it’s also wrong when a woman votes for a woman because she’s a woman.
I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy of people online when it comes to this statement:
If your cast vote is influenced at all by a candidate’s physical attributes (such as gender)
Which I believe I succeeded in. Usually, when people present such a statement, there’s the implicit [onlywhen it comes to men] - either by the one who posted the statement or those who read the statement (or both). I find it a weird combo of funny+sad when people try to justify to themselves that the same thing is fine if it involves anyone but men, but it’s wrong when it involves men.
I find it funny/sad when people die on a hill that makes them look awful under the guise of being some new level of perfect human that always acts logically and is aware of and immune to any potential bias. It’s everyone else who is wrong, always, because you are the only truly objective individual.
Oh, don’t cry me here that you feel called out because you’re a misandrist. Fellas like you are as disgusting as the ones you claim to hate. Like, you went full 360 to be as awful, you just have different reasons.
Alt-right people being misogynistic - big bad.
“Left” people being misandristic - all peachy.
And yeah, until you stop feeling high and mighty that you’re doing the right thing by being exactly as awful, just against a different group of people, I’ll be calling you out and I’ll be forcing you to feel called out because that’s what hypocrites deserve.
No idea what MRA means, so not sure what I’m “selling” and I don’t particularly care about some weird labels you assign people so that you can feel better.
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If that’s the only criteria they use then yeah… they’re probably wrong.
The category of “women” includes MTG, thatcher, Alice Weidel and giorgia melloni, so obviously yes.
I know, I just wanted people to feel a little hypocritical.
I don’t feel hypocritical though. I’m a woman who sometimes votes for women and sometimes doesn’t, depending on their merit.
That’s very much fine by me, I’m a man who votes for women or men depending on what they promise (and how much I believe they’ll keep their promise). I specifically said “vote women because they’re women”.
Who does that though?
Oh of course everyone but this commenter. The commenter is the one perfectly logical human and they just thought they’d be kind and impart some of their deep wisdom upon us /s
Nope, but just because of the way you react, I’m gonna guess you’re the one that does that.
Like, just go Google and you’ll see discussions where people urge others that they should vote for a woman? For example, during the last elections in my country there was a campaign “circle a woman” (circling is giving your preference vote towards a singular candidate instead of just voting for a party, not sure if there’s some equivalent where you live).
Do you see it on lemmy? I’ve never encountered this and it feels weird to say that you’re combatting hypocrisy when you’re not in the arena in which it actually takes place.
Might be getting downvotes because it’s a straw man argument. It presupposes that women are voting for women because of their gender. I myself don’t know if that’s true. And “women” is such a large voting bloc that looking at median behaviors seems unproductive.
I think some women are looking for representatives who will defend their right to live and not bleed out or be injured for life by voting for candidates that support access to reproductive care, along with other issues that matter to them. Women on the left, like VP Harris, put forward full-throated support for that. But maybe I’m naive?
Nah, it asks if it’s also wrong when a woman votes for a woman because she’s a woman.
I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy of people online when it comes to this statement:
Which I believe I succeeded in. Usually, when people present such a statement, there’s the implicit
[only when it comes to men]- either by the one who posted the statement or those who read the statement (or both). I find it a weird combo of funny+sad when people try to justify to themselves that the same thing is fine if it involves anyone but men, but it’s wrong when it involves men.Oh you GOT us alright. /s
I find it funny/sad when people die on a hill that makes them look awful under the guise of being some new level of perfect human that always acts logically and is aware of and immune to any potential bias. It’s everyone else who is wrong, always, because you are the only truly objective individual.
Maybe sell your MRA bullshit elsewhere?
Oh, don’t cry me here that you feel called out because you’re a misandrist. Fellas like you are as disgusting as the ones you claim to hate. Like, you went full 360 to be as awful, you just have different reasons.
And yeah, until you stop feeling high and mighty that you’re doing the right thing by being exactly as awful, just against a different group of people, I’ll be calling you out and I’ll be forcing you to feel called out because that’s what hypocrites deserve.
No idea what MRA means, so not sure what I’m “selling” and I don’t particularly care about some weird labels you assign people so that you can feel better.
No one is buying your “hypocrite” angle, probably not even you.
If you feel called out so much, maybe reconsider your behaviour?
Lol ironic
HyPoCrItIcAl!!!111
Did that look cool in your head?
^ Projection of edgelordism