“Were we actually expected to be fully functioning adults by the end of high school, because my peers seem very immature?” is my interpretation.
And, no. You were expected to be able to either join the workforce or pursue further education with the basic education provided, mental maturity isn’t actually a part of the curriculum and is mostly up to you to develop.
I’m trying to express that I feel as though I’m interacting, everyday, with people haven’t learned a single thing since they left high school. Not in an academic sense but they never actually learned to form ideals for themselves and they have this rudimentary framework they adhere to without even the slightest thought that they should maybe alter that framework to fit the world they experience everyday.
I myself have been wondering this. In my experience, try to settle disputes with people and they will consider peer speculation tobetheembodiedvoiceofreality, if anything. It’s like the zombie apocalypse equivalent of bad judgment, and I only wonder what would happen if their “infallible” sources are stripped away.
Not in an academic sense but they never actually learned to form ideals
First, yes there are people that never intellectually explore the world nor the underpinnings of their beliefs after high school. This is, many times, why people are a stark difference from their prior selves when they go to college and do actually get exposed to other beliefs and are taught to question the “why” of their known “what”.
However, don’t get too cocky and arrogant in your superiority. I only have fractional knowledge of this myself, but when I was much younger I thought the way you did and I was equally ignorant as you may be now. There’s more you’re not seeing that has value.
Those same people you’re referring to do learn other things which aren’t always apparent. “Street Smarts” is one way some of these skills are described. They can generally read a room and know the social condition in it and if it is risky or becoming unsafe. They are keenly aware of navigating the fringes of society’s bureaucracies just out of necessity. This includes navigating the legal system. Many times they have social bonds, which to outsiders, defy reason. Others would look at some of these relationships as “toxic” but they don’t understand that those bonds will sometimes produce effort, money, or insight in emergency or dire situations to those on the in-group not available to the rest of us. Society has a pale phrase that tries to encapsulate this in “ride or die”, but to those that live it, its much deeper and more committed.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. These people demonstrate they have no street smarts because someone with street smarts excepts the simple meritocracy model of the world given to us in grade school was horse shit and adapted their views to fit their current circumstances.
Wut?
“Were we actually expected to be fully functioning adults by the end of high school, because my peers seem very immature?” is my interpretation.
And, no. You were expected to be able to either join the workforce or pursue further education with the basic education provided, mental maturity isn’t actually a part of the curriculum and is mostly up to you to develop.
I’m trying to express that I feel as though I’m interacting, everyday, with people haven’t learned a single thing since they left high school. Not in an academic sense but they never actually learned to form ideals for themselves and they have this rudimentary framework they adhere to without even the slightest thought that they should maybe alter that framework to fit the world they experience everyday.
So… “most people don’t challenge their own beliefs”
“When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different.”
https://theweek.com/speedreads/575962/donald-trump-tells-biographer-hes-same-now-first-grade
To be fair though, he’s come a long way since kindergarten.
I myself have been wondering this. In my experience, try to settle disputes with people and they will consider peer speculation to be the embodied voice of reality, if anything. It’s like the zombie apocalypse equivalent of bad judgment, and I only wonder what would happen if their “infallible” sources are stripped away.
Sounds like you might be American. It’s hard to get friends and peers to care about shit.
First, yes there are people that never intellectually explore the world nor the underpinnings of their beliefs after high school. This is, many times, why people are a stark difference from their prior selves when they go to college and do actually get exposed to other beliefs and are taught to question the “why” of their known “what”.
However, don’t get too cocky and arrogant in your superiority. I only have fractional knowledge of this myself, but when I was much younger I thought the way you did and I was equally ignorant as you may be now. There’s more you’re not seeing that has value.
Those same people you’re referring to do learn other things which aren’t always apparent. “Street Smarts” is one way some of these skills are described. They can generally read a room and know the social condition in it and if it is risky or becoming unsafe. They are keenly aware of navigating the fringes of society’s bureaucracies just out of necessity. This includes navigating the legal system. Many times they have social bonds, which to outsiders, defy reason. Others would look at some of these relationships as “toxic” but they don’t understand that those bonds will sometimes produce effort, money, or insight in emergency or dire situations to those on the in-group not available to the rest of us. Society has a pale phrase that tries to encapsulate this in “ride or die”, but to those that live it, its much deeper and more committed.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. These people demonstrate they have no street smarts because someone with street smarts excepts the simple meritocracy model of the world given to us in grade school was horse shit and adapted their views to fit their current circumstances.