The people in cities and in blue states made this economic turn around happen. Trump does not deserve the credit he will claim. Burn it down.

Edit: If you leave this thread learning anything please let it be this one thing. Organic political movement isn’t schemed up in a board room or carefully planned and executed every step of the way. It starts inside of you and people like you and you lend your support not knowing the outcome but believing in the cause. If it’s not here, it’s not here. I don’t mean to supply you with fuel needed but only the spark to ignite flame waiting to be ignited.

I’m out though.

  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
    51·
    13 days ago

    Waiting for things to cool off is the one sure fire way to make sure it will never happen. Anyone tempted to subscribe to this belief has already in their head given up their freedom. Has already resided their fate and is ready for the new world order.

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
      11·
      13 days ago

      I’m not saying this out of ignorance. I’m a professional organizer. I’m telling you that a strike without planning is like jumping into the deep end without learning to swim. The strike will fail if things aren’t prepared first.

      ETA: all said, if you want to start organizing this strike I will help. I absolutely agree, a strike is really the only tool left in our “peaceful protest” toolbox.

      • Rhaedas@fedia.io
        4·
        13 days ago

        Occupy Wall Street is a perfect example of this. It may be too old for some to remember now, but the fire was there to do something, people showed up. Because there was no organization, no central message, lots of in fighting on why they were there, it totally failed. People were there interviewing active protestors, asked them what they are protesting and what the demand for change were, and they had nothing.

        A lot like MAGA crowds. The difference is that MAGA has organization, not for the messages (which can be all over the place), but because it’s a cult of personality.

      • Drusas@fedia.io
        2·
        13 days ago

        I wonder what kind of planning went into Seattle’s general strike. They didn’t even have easy means of communication back then.

        • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
          1·
          12 days ago

          I think that’s just the beauty of communications technology. We’ll be trying to reach far more people, but imo (based on the Minneapolis general strike) it will be approximately the same amount of effort

      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
        13·
        13 days ago

        We need you, dummy. I’m not that. I’m know I’m not that. You are the litmus test. We don’t have you and people like you we don’t have a strike.

        • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
          4·
          13 days ago

          I’ll need a committee, friend. I was once where you were too, your passion is exactly what an organizing committee needs!

    • bluejay@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      13 days ago

      This is a take I actually agree with you on. Complacency is this country’s biggest flaw and why shit has cranked so hard to the right. But people need leaders with plans and social skills. In the same breath of saying inaction is deadly, so is unorganized action. That’s how movements die. Remember occupy Wall Street? Favorite example.

      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
        15·
        13 days ago

        I’ve already done all the hard things occupy couldn’t. I set a deadline and given you three non-negotiables. Even if we leave the having gotten nothing we leave accomplishing what we set out to do, putting the economy in shambles and making sure trump actually has to create a successful one through policy.