• enkers@sh.itjust.works
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    17 days ago

    What’s also crazy is that there are people lining up saying “Surely that won’t also happen to me.”

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      17 days ago

      “How much money can I steal from taxpayers before I get knifed in the back?”

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        16 days ago

        Why does the political landscape of the supposed most powerful country in the world look more like what you’d expect if Charlie Brooker decided his next project was going to be a satirical gameshow? I want off this fucking timeline.

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      16 days ago

      “Those people were losers. I am very smart so it won’t happen to me”

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        16 days ago

        I still haven’t decided if making Leon and Vivek Co leads of DOGE is a dig at Leon or Vivek. I’m sure Leon thinks he’s the “real” lead.

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          Oh yeah it’s to make them fight. This is how the people who make Trump’s decisions think is the way to run a government.

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      16 days ago

      actually the people coming back know that he demands loyalty. they might have to sell part of their soul to be loyal, but they know that up front and are committed to doing it.

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    17 days ago

    It’s crazy that most of the country looked at that and said either “I want that” or “That’s fine, I don’t care”.

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      17 days ago

      They didn’t look at that. This is the frustrating truth we have to come to terms with. People are fucking oblivious. They vote for a single issue at most, and don’t understand what they signed up for.

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        17 days ago

        It’s almost like someone has been systematically dismantling your education system for 50 or so years so they could reach this point.

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        16 days ago

        It’s brexit mentality. People voted for change from the status quo.

        Most don’t imagine that change will could make their lives worse.

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        Yeah, oblivious sums it up. Despite all the stuff that’s happened, and all the information and video evidence that’s readily available to anybody who cares enough to look at it, their team is their team. If you fancy yourself a smart responsible Christian, especially a white one, your ignorant ass is just a Republican.

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          16 days ago

          The amount of people who are horrified now that they’ve had tariffs explained to them is… depressingly high.

          They didn’t wanna look up what a tarrif was before voting for Mr. Tariffs?

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            16 days ago

            They just thought that was the magic word he was going to use to set gasoline prices back to what they were in 2016!

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              16 days ago

              I almost wish for gas prices to be as high as they are in other developed countries… That and the tariffs would be a huge wake up. Unfortunately it would be blamed on Biden even 3 years down the road… It’s a no win situation.

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                Average gas price today in NZ: $2.53NZD/l = $5.59USD/Gal (2.53 * 3.78(l to Gal) / 1.71 (NZD to USD))

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                  Oh my sweet summer kiwi friend. If we are going to teach my fellow Americans that other countries exist, and that global commodity prices affect them too, and that they are often more expensive than our “high” prices here, I don’t think we can start with the country that gets left off the map all the damn time by people who should already know better!

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                Yeah, Trump not having his horrible decisions and actions held against him is kind of how we got here in the first place. :/

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        I live in a very liberal place, and people still throw their TVs and ACs into the fucking recycling dumpster. Americans are overall a very stupid group of people. Red areas doubly so.

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        17 days ago

        This may sound controversial and no I don’t have a way to implement it, but we should probably have a means to screen the knowledge of voters over the things they’re voting on before they can access a ballot box.

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          16 days ago

          Consider that the MAGAs would be in charge of administering and scoring such a test and you’ll immediately see why that’s a bad idea.

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          16 days ago

          I’ve been thinking about this lately. Is this the moment when we realize a democracy isn’t all it’s cracked up to be?

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      A large chunk of the population gets their info from Fox News and News Max etc. Many of my extended family unfortunately. They think that is reliable information and can’t be convinced otherwise. When I try to bring up facts they give me this look like I’m the crazy one spreading the lies. It’s a really sad state of affairs, they are genuinely good people otherwise. I think there are too many assumptions that people just wanted what we’re about to get.

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        Sorry no. If they voted for trump they’re not good people. They’re either assholes or too stupid to be making decisions for the country.

        Anyone who votes for mass deportation is not a good person. Anyone who votes to take away health care from a huge chunk of the population is also not a good person.

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          It’s an environment issue for them, their belief system and past experiences shape their decisions. The DNC had opportunities for real change and did not take them, and that feeds into the establishment/ “drain the swamp” rhetoric. Calling people stupid isn’t going to help anything, they are heavily misinformed and tuned out living in a busy world. I don’t give them a full pass here, but if we’re going to change anything we need to figure out how to communicate with this segment and recognize their grievances.

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            Nah. They got themselves into that information bubble because it validated and made them feel ok with their misogyny, their xenophobia, their general bigotry. If you watch just a little Fox, Infowars, Rogan and decide, “hey, this is good stuff and deserving of my attention”, you weren’t a good person to begin with.

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            Thing is, normalizing stupidity and shitiness doesn’t help anything either. It actively makes things worse. I don’t know what the actual answer is to improving things with that kind of person though. I just think pretending that being a shitbag is acceptable behavior ain’t it.

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        16 days ago

        Or they just don’t watch the news entirely. There was a spike insearches on election day of ‘Did Biden drop out?’ These people are completely out of the loop on everything and yet voting.

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    17 days ago

    Stephen fucking Miller is tapped to return. The administration is shaping up to be more detestable than I could imagine. I’m waiting to see where the bottom goes from Betsy DeVoes as secretary of edu

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      I love that his biggest criticism of Biden was that he doesn’t fire anyone. Firing someone means you failed to pick the right candidate. Biden didn’t fire anyone because he made good choices. Trump always has to fire people because he has no judgement of character. He just goes with whoever compliments him in that moment.

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        as a non american in America I’ve come to find that’s an American egregore: that firing people means you’re a good leader.

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          Nope, you are confusing Dumps reality TV show with actual reality. I guess it does get a little confusing as his whole presidency seems to be a parody. People who voted for him truly are some of the stupidest human beings to ever exist.

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            I’ve heard it as a criticism of Peter Thiel and others, and, as a manager edging towards director, I get asked about it in interviews too

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              In real life firing means you made the wrong pick and is not looked upon as a good thing unless you are a sociopath. I suppose if you came into a company to clean house some would view it as correct but they are probably shareholders who have perverse incentives.

              Long story short, Americans don’t generally like bosses and don’t approve of firings unless it is obvious the choice was correct, for instance firing someone who is toxic.

              Having had to fire someone as a director myself I would think it strange to be brought up in an interview and probably a red flag.

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                Personally, I agree with you. However last several organizations I’ve been in have had a “we trial you to see if you’re an A-player, and if not we next you” attitude

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                  I am sorry that you have to deal with people like that. It sounds like their organizations are dysfunctional.

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              They don’t ask you about the edging direction? I’m assuming you don’t eventually cum on the director. So down your pants or do you want until you get home?

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          Also as a non-American who lived in America, you are spot on. American management culture seems to pride itself in childish power plays. Firing problem employees instead of working with them to resolve issues was becoming less acceptable, but it’s still the primary method of handling issues for some industries.

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    I was hoping the Never Trumpers, those scorned by Trump, and the Democrats could come together and say “We can’t let Trump or anyone like him happen again.”

    But that would have made sense…

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      You know how there is that meme of “Epstein didn’t kill himself?”

      I’m 99% sure Trump had a hand in it due to him being held in a federal prison and having plenty of dirt on him.

      And the other was Pence on Jan. 6th when refusing to get into the secret service car until the results were certified.

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          The reason I can’t forget that is because there were three reasons he didn’t get in the car.

          1. He took his position seriously and would certify the vote.
          2. One of his secret service personnel told him directly “Do not get in that car, Mr. Vice President.”
          3. The secret service that showed up with the car wasn’t Pence’s detail, it was Trump’s.
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      No so much directly as encouraged his supporters to.

      Rhymes with “bang my fence”

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    & there’s a new group ready to replace the previous group

    (as if none of that ever happened).

    Life IS strange.

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      What we need is Sacha Baron Cohen to somehow get Trump on camera, saying Epstein will be a nominee for something.

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    I think there are a couple of people who could return… He’s still on ok terms with Roger Stone and the guy who just got out of prison, right?