I for one have stopped posting any content to lemmy.ml communities.

        • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          4 days ago

          Is it a fallacy? I frequently run into self-styled anarchists who describe other self-styled anarchists as “not real anarchists”.

          • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 days ago

            .ml people don’t even describe themselves as anarchists, from what I’ve seen. And those that do, often hide behind that label in bad faith

              • Dasus@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 days ago

                Nation-states and anarchism don’t technically clash insofar that you could have a nation that’s ruled by anarchy.

                Just like you Russians are ruled by autocracy. (That’s a pro-Russian account.)

              • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 days ago

                Ah, here are the aforementioned .ml people. I wonder, do you specifically search out mentions of you in other instances to engage in conversations with people who don’t like you?

                • Dasus@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  3 days ago

                  I think they generally try to keep themselves in their echo chambers, but as they’re federated, can’t sometimes help themselves and have to input some would-be-snarky comment they think is ever-so-clever. Then they get ratio’d hard, they get their bot-armies to vote on when they’re off instance (if you look you’ll see quite a lot of the time there might be a lot of downvotes for opinions against them, but always at most one or two more than how many upvotes it has. it means for mobile users the comment looks less reactive than it is).

                  Then their egos get hurt because we bitch slap reality in their faces and they go crying back to whatever grad they crawled out from.

                  • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    Honestly I think this one just could pass by the Ukrainian flag. I don’t have much love for our government, but I put the flag in my online accounts so that it triggers pro-russian trolls. Still beats living in russia, at least here I can’t get jail time for saying I like a man

        • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          4 days ago

          If “they dont even pretend to be anarchists”, then why would the comment

          They’re not anarchists tho. Don’t associate anarchism with .ml bullshit

          be necessary in the first place?

            • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              4 days ago

              The comment above demonstrates that non-ml members perceive ml members as claiming anarchy among their values. If that impression exists, there must be a reason for it - which is that ml members do in fact claim to be anarchists.

              Therefore, in the context of this thread, it is valid to point out the existence of self-styled anarchists claiming that other self-styled anarchists are “not real anarchists”. The existence of this thread demonstrates the truth of the statement, regardless of whether you personally like the conclusion or not.

              • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                edit-2
                4 days ago

                The comment above demonstrates that non-ml members perceive ml members as claiming anarchy among their values. If that impression exists, there must be a reason for it - which is that ml members do in fact claim to be anarchists.

                Please don’t try to make a logical argument when you can’t get this right. The comment above only demonstrates that at least one non-.ml user perceives .ml users as being self-proclaimed anarchists. There must be a reason for that, and that reason does not have to be that .ml users are self-proclaimed anarchists. It could be that this commenter is simply misinterpreting the views of .ml users.

                You didn’t even get the fallacy right. Rockerface didn’t modify their statement at all. All they said was that the users of .ml instances aren’t anarchists. You never provided any examples of anarchist .ml users, and they never modified their initial claim to protect it from a falsifying example.