• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    So you manipulate people so that they should believe you. And if it works, they think you are right. Now you ask if you are really right?

    No, you are not. You are laughable.

    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 days ago

      Nah if you tricked people into getting vaccines you’d be right because getting vaccines is still the right choice.

      To OP: how you convince people of a fact doesn’t change that fact, you can manipulate people to believe a lie as much as a truth. The latter is what democrats need to do to win against Trump for instance, lie and cheat and disparage the opposition at every opportunity, call them all molestors, party of Epstein island etc etc and just fool people into believing the right thing just like trump, putin etc. fool people into believing the wrong thing.

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          9 days ago

          That alone shouldn’t cast the entire fact into doubt. Consider the situation you were responding to. Whether you believe in the efficacy of vaccines, does being manipulated into believing one way or the other change the actual efficacy? It doesn’t. If you were manipulated into believing they work and got one, then only realize later you were manipulated, you might want to first scrutinize the actual method used to manipulate you. Did they bait you with emotional pleas (think of the children!)? Did they emasculate you? Did they compliment you?

          Then understand why this tactics worked on you.

        • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          8 days ago

          You can doubt it all you want it may still be true. You can manipulate a flat rather into believing the earth is round, he can doubt it,.but it will still be round.