• doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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    23 days ago

    Tell me more how Democrats improved living wages and our healthcare system.

    No question the Republicans are going to be worse, sadly (and with full control). But the fact the “party of the people” also gave us a fuck off is a big reason team red won everything.

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      23 days ago

      Tell me more how Democrats improved living wages and our healthcare system.

      affordable heathcare act

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        23 days ago

        That and Obama was actually the first President to ask Congress to raise the minimum wage and be told to fuck off… Which is one of many unfortunate examples of how far our country has turned to the Right

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        23 days ago

        Yeah, I was about to say, I can you know, not choose between dying or a life of debt?

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        22 days ago

        Affordable Care Act was terrible at first. It’s barely better now. And I was talking about the last four years mostly. My family’s wages went down when you factor healthcare costs (not even considering the inflation on food etc). Democrats need to be pushing for single payer, it’s actually popular even among some Republican voters if the Democrats knew how to communicate with people instead of calling them names. If they would run on fixing minimum wage and European style healthcare they would probably be able to get it done.

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          22 days ago

          Affordable Care Act was terrible at first.

          As a representative of everyone with a preexisting condition before the ACA was passed, I am mentally violating the community civility rule at you right now.

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          22 days ago

          Democrats need to be pushing for single payer

          Guess how Hilary Clinton first became Public Enemy #1 to conservatives in the early '90s.

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            22 days ago

            This was before the current enshittification. My family was all against it in the 90s and today they’re all saying that insurance companies are what’s wrong with health care. Things have changed.

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              22 days ago

              And will they vote for someone who pushing single payer or call it socialism today?

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                18 days ago

                I can’t predict the future. But I can say it depends on the whole policy picture. They’d vote for a socialist before they’d vote for someone pushing gun control. Funny thing is, real leftists should be completely opposed to disarming the proletariat.

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      22 days ago

      Lemmy is libbed the fuck up dude. Genuinely starting to think it’s a lost cause here.

      The fact that someone can post this without at all reflecting on the fact that democrats have been in power for 12 of the last 16 years and the average american is worse off than they’ve ever been.

      And no I don’t think democrats are as bad as republicans.

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        22 days ago

        The fact that someone can post this without at all reflecting on the fact that democrats have been in power for 12 of the last 16 years and the average american is worse off than they’ve ever been.

        That really doesn’t look at the entire picture. Don’t get me wrong, Dems are hotrodding it to the right and their response to trump seems to have been to abandon anything left of center and ratchet their party and the entire country to the right.

        However:

        Since 1981 Democrats have had control of the Presidency and Congress a whopping 4 years. One 2 year period under Clinton and one under Obama. That’s without factoring in the ability to fillibuster in the Senate. In over 40 years they’ve only had control 10% of the time.

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        That period of filibuster-proof control during Obama’s term is why we have the ACA. It was ~70 days and they passed the largest healthcare overhaul in generations.

        Repurposing a comment from @MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world because they said it so succinctly.

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          And I don’t remember under Clinton because it’s been to long, but under Obama, you had Democratic senators like Joe Donnelly who was very much GOP-lite (hence getting elected in Indiana), including being anti-abortion. So it was no different then when Manchin made it to the senate a couple of years later.

          Obama could never have done things like codify Roe v. Wade or pass a more robust healthcare reform and people who think he could have are not looking at reality and just think, “his team won so he could have gotten whatever he wanted and he blew it.” It’s only slightly less ignorant than the idea that the president controls gas and food prices.