[alt text: Text which says, “The 2 genders according to chuds”. Below the text is two images. On the left is an image of Geralt from The Witcher 3, and he is labeled, “Male, parentheses (white)”. On the right is an image of Ciri from The Witcher 4 trailer, and she is labeled, “Political”.]

  • Ech@lemm.ee
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    Developing from a pretty, young, “vulnerable” girl that needs saving (even though she’s already tough as hell in TW3) into an older (chud translation: “ugly”) main protagonist fighting back against the patriarchy has these fools spitting with outrage. Here’s hoping CDPR doesn’t give them an inch.

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      She aged naturally! Ugh, she was my hot sexy daughter in Witcher 3! Why would they… Have her grow up?! /s

      Only thing I’m hesitant about is the actor, but I’m willing to give her a shot. Minor thing.

      I doubt CDPR went into this without knowing how incels would react, and knowing they’ll still buy it. After CP2077 with the whole customize genitals issue (that I’m sure most people had forgotten about), I don’t think CDPR cares. They’re Polish, I hope they laugh at our stupid ass “culture war” bullshit

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          Please stop blaming those things on everything except people. I’m Polish. Polish people drink homophobia with their mothers milk. We didn’t need to import it from US or Russia (it’s still better than in the 90s). Average developer is a young male who predominantly votes for outright fascists. The reason CDPR appears progressive is because they calculated it to be more profitable.

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            About 50% of developers are 25-35. We skew young due to more and more people becoming programmers, that is, for the same reason that cobblers skew old, but not first vote kind of young.

            And your source doesn’t even make an attempt to correlate voting behaviour to profession, much less specialised field (programmer vs gamedev), not to mention that not every gamedev is a programmer, all in all not enough data to slander a whole profession. Do better.

            The reason gamedevs skews progressive, btw, is because artists do.

            But OTOH yes you’re right in Poland’s case it’s not imported culture war BS it’s Catholicism.

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              People 18-39 vote predominantly for Konfederacja (far right), KO (populist centre-right), PiS (populist right). I could dig some more precise sources with gender data but I think it’s telling that these are the results even with women in the mix. Coincidentally even among young women voting for far right is more common than for centre-left. I’m not mentioning left since their popularity is within a margin of error.

              Yeah, artists skew left but you won’t find a more bigoted libertarian than a young polish programmer. Most of them are also pretty spoiled too because of the degressive tax system that favours them so much.

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                Yeah, artists skew left but you won’t find a more bigoted libertarian than a young polish programmer. Most of them are also pretty spoiled too because of the degressive tax system that favours them so much.

                The temporarily embarrassed millionaires don’t tend to be the ones going into gamedev: Our wages suck and being an indie is about as likely to make you rich as playing the lottery. I’d mostly limit that kind of behaviour to FAANG folks as well as people who should have studied business economics instead (or actually did) and probably can’t code for shit anyway, in short: Techbros. They’re about as toxic as your average corporate lawyer.

                Assholes existing is a general feature of contemporary society, don’t pin it on people understanding “there are 10 kinds of people” jokes.

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      Are there actually people complaining that she’s ugly…? She literally looks like a model, just with some scars.

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        There are certainly some, but that bit was more about certain creatins on this planet treating any woman nearing 30 as detestable.

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    I bet the people complaining with “what about the lore” have a big overlap with the people that wanted Ciri to be a love interest in W3…

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        “Uhm, actually, if you think of the historic period…”

        Or some bullshit like that. Screw these morons, seriously.

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      As someone who is curious about how they are going to explain the lore (in case you haven’t read the books: Ciri forswore magic after she had to draw power from fire in an emergency situation and that nearly escalated - also, you are missing out, the books are great), I feel offended by your statement.

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      I’m 100% for Ciri being the main character and I’m also complaining “what about the lore”. You can do both at the same time. There’s a vocal minority of people who’ll use the lore argument to be sexist assholes, but people who have actually read and understood the books can have some valid concerns (ie where and how did she go through the trials, why can she use magic again, where did she even find how to do the trials, and just… why? She didn’t need them and it’s a bit of a character regression. She was basically already a witcher by title.)

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    Who played the witcher 3 and didn’t want more Ciri gameplay? Wtf? The agile movement was so fun. Best parts of the game fight-wise.

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      Game was so boring, so slow, so clunky, so bleak, I never made it that far. Tried twice over the years. I want to like it. It seems great, but then actually playing it becomes a chore quickly.

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      Here, me. The Ciri parts were like someone shoved a linear action adventure into the open world RPG I wanted to play.

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    The bad reactions to this seemed minimal to me, but my god the woman in the Galactic trailer is driving them nuts.

    Which I really don’t understand, because I find her look and vibe the good part of that trailer. The slurping drink and forced pop song on the other hand…

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      They seem to hate Naughty Dog ever since they made them play as a lesbian instead of a generic white guy.

      I do like to see those people triggered. I can see them being angry at rainbows for making the sky gay.

      Also, I hope I spend this game collecting so much 80s music that I feel like I’m back in Vice City.

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    someone should endeavor to make The Most Political Game In The World by simply having no white male characters in it at all.

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    Why isn’t the lady who’s been training all her life to fight monsters in my grounded low fantasy game made to look like she comes from the place it is set, the same as my ones in Stellar Blade!?!?!

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        It seems to me, some people just want to hurt others… Best is to ignore the loud minority and focus on the not so loud majority, which will buy the game 😇

        • boonhet@lemm.ee
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          Even better, don’t focus on the majority OR the minority. Wait till the game’s out before you make a decision. Don’t preorder shit.

    • Viri4thus@feddit.org
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      The gamer is a ragebait shitrag manufacturing controversy where there is none. Stop driving traffic to that piece of garbage.

      • oce 🐆@jlai.lu
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        Give me a source you prefer, I will be happy to swap it. The first results I found was this and Forbes and I was expecting this reaction for Forbes.

        • Viri4thus@feddit.org
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          Well, maybe, just maybe, it’s a handful of idiots and not worthy of amplifying their message so real journalists just ignore them?

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            Tell that to OP, I’m providing the context for their post that I didn’t have.