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    No they don’t. “Christians” don’t read, especially their own handbooks. To the point where if you quote something from the bible that disagrees with their ignorant bullshit they get extra mad.

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    Americans & intelligent are 2 things that should never be used together;<br> I realized that & accepted it

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    I stopped reading Reddit entirely save for deshittifying search results, but I braced myself and looked at the conservative subreddit today, and even they think this is quite dumb.

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      Hahaha I did the same, I was considering what rock I could turn to find them under and remembered Reddit.

      Can confirm, even they haven’t found a way of spinning this one. Their best shot was justifying this as an attempt of making Trudeau, who’s leaving, to look bad and ease up on the tariffs when the new guy comes in so he looks good and is more eager to work with Trump, but even then they see it as a shot in the foot.

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        They all seem pretty bewildered by this iteration of the orange rapist from the little bit I looked. I got the feeling that he doesn’t have a lot of support there anymore. Idk I’m not digging around but it’s just a sense I have.

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          I glanced around old Facebox and mostly saw them yammering about trans people today and pretty quiet on the tariffs. It’s interesting.

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            I made a post on there, first one I’m years, about how whoever voted for Trump can’t fuck right off. My sister texts me “oh dear brother. You’ve unleashed the Maga folks” which happen to be my brother and my other sisters ex-husband. I haven’t even checked my notifications to see what they said. I don’t need to read it. I know it will be ignorance. Anywho, take care of yourself

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    Maybe he should blame the guy who last negotiated such a bad trade deal, which would be… checks notes… Donald Trump during his first term! 🤦

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    I find the average atheist seems to be more familiar with the messages of the Bible than many of these people who claim to spend their Sundays studying it.

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      Teenage me went into reading the Bible expecting to learn more about my religion and become one of those well-versed scholars.

      And then I kept reading, and the terrible truth eventually dawned on me. It really is just a bunch of silly stories from farmers thousands of years ago. It’s nearly impossible to actually read it and remain neutral about this; yet another one of life’s “emperors new clothes” situations.

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        The more I read the Bible (having read multiple versions) as a teen the more I realized that people who claim to walk as Christ did, in fact do not walk as Christ did. There are exceptions, such as the pastor who I met volunteering at a soup kitchen, but a vast majority only prove my point.

        Christ walked among sinners, the down and destitute, tax collectors, sex workers and the “unclean”. The same people these self proclaimed men and women of Christ will rebuke and spit on.

        I always think back to that scene from Castlevania between the Bishop and the Demon: “my life’s work is in his name!” “Your life’s work. Makes him puke.”

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          Yeah but some of the worst Christians are the ones who do walk with the wretches. They come in with their ideas of sin and salvation and don’t bother to notice when they’ve found pockets of paradise among the damned because they’re too busy trying to convert people away from the things they like

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        It really is just a bunch of silly stories from farmers thousands of years ago

        Can you imagine how twisted the guy who wrote Revelations was? Why did he just make all that shit up? Why did he try to pass off his own shit as Yahweh’s shit? Since he knew that Revelations was his own made up bullshit, he must have known that the entire bible was made up bullshit too. Why did he think it was okay to be a gigantic liar and for him to contribute to the mountain of bullshit started by others?

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          A friend who grew up an atheist recently read the Bible as part of her reading a bunch of religious texts. Her take on revelations is that she’s had fever dreams like that.

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          If you’re actually curious about this, Elaine Pagels has a really great book about this. The book of Revelation was just a thinly-veiled series of jabs at specific people and the politics of the time.

          Her interpretation is that it would have been blatantly obvious to John’s contemporaries, but it’s opaque to us now because we’re so far removed from that time period.

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            huh. Interesting.

            so something similar to Dante’s Inferno, which is basically a long shitpost about contemporary politics that over time diffused into religious culture?

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      Out of curiosity I went to one once, I am not Christian and I never believed in the Bible.

      I don’t know if this how all churches do it but the one church I went to read the Bible in a manipulative way. Regardless of the book or its content, you cannot construct a narrative by selecting one or two verses from one book and another one or two verses from another book of the Bible. Sometimes the books aren’t even from the same testament.

      Any book should be read in whole, and any verse has a context that explains it.

      The same technique applied to anything be it a research paper or a comic will produce a false narrative.

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        Here’s a fun one: tell a conservative that rich people are doomed to go to hell. If they ask how you figure that, quote:

        It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God

        Without fail their programming will kick in and you will get some lengthy blog post with stupid reasoning about how what Jesus was actually talking about was some rock formation and some other dumb shit. Meanwhile you can just read the verses before and after for context and it’s pretty damn clear what was meant: greed is a form of evil.

        This is the difference between reading the Bible and having it explained to you.

        Another fun one: tell them God prefers atheists to vague believers. Prepare for another programmed blog post about how Jesus was actually referring to the taste of the water at some town that completely ignores the context of the book itself.

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        The point is that whatever verses are picked out agrees with what the pulpit wants to believe. It makes their hate righteous.

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        I don’t know about other churches, but the Methodist Church I used to go to with my grandma never had a pastor out of the 2 I witnessed that did stuff like that. Maybe it depends on the region, but I’ve never heard of those type of manipulative strategies where I live, so I’d say I’m pretty lucky on that front. Closest I’ve probably heard of something like that in my area are the Mormons, but that’s a whole nother can of worms that I don’t wanna touch.

        Regardless, that doesn’t sound right or like a very Christian thing to do. Even if the verses tell of similar things, context for those verses are real important, just like with any other readings (religious or otherwise).

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    I always find this imagery amusing. David is touted as this weak shepherd boy who is nearly defenseless in the face of this giant opponent. In reality, you’ve got someone who has trained to sling rocks with deadly accuracy. He’s basically the bronze age equivalent of a sniper, bro can send a 2 inch projectile at mach jesus straight for your dome.

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      Slings (no NOT slingshots) are actually awesome. It is very fun to learn to throw tennis balls. The average physically active adult can with learn to throw without hurting their bodies at speeds only a fairly professional baseball pitcher could rival with arm alone. The “lever action” you get from the slings length translates to a much slower (angular rotation) and less violent acceleration necessary at the base of the rotation (your body) for a vigorous throw, it doesn’t hurt to throw even fairly heavy things because it is like you have gone to a really low gear on a mountain bike.

      I really like this guy’s paracord slings, might be expensive but you are also basically buying a template and a tool that will last for years and years of throwing.

      https://www.practicalparacord.com/

      https://www.etsy.com/shop/PracticalParacorded?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1400323503&from_page=listing#items

      https://youtube.com/@practicalparacord

      Montage of normal people slinging and the crazy variety of body types and throwing styles, I have never seen a sport/throwing implement with such variety of body mechanics, it is clearly in our bones after all, to make a sling simply requires cordage of some kind, time and a pile of rocks!

      https://youtu.be/qVrWk557reU

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    You’re assuming that these people give a fuck about Christianity other than as a cudgel for beating people up.

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    Yeah! Prepare yourselves! You’re going up against Cobra Kai!

    This is your end game and you’re up against Thanos is what I mean!

    You’re like that Mexican “Chapulin Colorado!”

    You’re like those blue people fighting Gargamel and his cat! You’ll never succeed! Never!

    Have you guys ever seen voltron, the thunder cats, robotech, ghost in the shell, the power rangers, you Canadians are just like that going up against all their archnesises! Yeah!

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    Bitch, the “unfair treatment” you are going on about was the one proposed by Trump in 2018.

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    The US has strategically used tariffs with great success over the last decades to get favorable pricing from Canada on everything from energy, softwood, potash, you name it. One item at a time, slowly, methodically they were able to bring down pricing. We have been giving the US extremely good prices, and now, because of Trump he has just flipped the board over and it’s time to restart.

    America will be far worse off than before this started, and this has leveled off the playing field again with Canada.

    As a Canadian I am thrilled.

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      Could you or someone explain this a bit further? You’re saying tariffs were used to bring down prices, but now tariffs are bringing prices back up again? What’s different this time?

      Thanks for any help.

      (I’m also thrilled for Canada, especially if it means shit in Donald lap.)

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        I think strategically used tariffs (i.e. used in trade negotiations for specific sectors or items, not unilateral tariffs) can convince a country to export items at a price that benefits one country more than the other, usually in tandem with an agreement to reciprocate. Basically, countries agree to trade at certain rates or exclusively sell. Tariffs are the “bad cop” of trade negotiations.

        The tariff isn’t what lowers the price, it’s the threat of the tariff that lowers the price or keeps it stable.

        Imagine Canada exports maple widgets at $10 a piece to reflect the true cost of manufacture. The US says that is too high, our people can’t afford that price once it’s on the shelves, so how about you export them for $8? To sweeten the deal, we’ll export freedom widgets to you at reduced cost.

        Canada responds saying $8 for maple widgets is too low, $10 is firm and we’ll deal with the current cost of freedom widgets. The US threatens a targeted tariff on maple widgets at 25% which doesn’t affect the price of maple widgets in Canada or their sale price to importers in the US, but importers in the US have to pay $2.50 in tax on top of the purchase cost for maple widgets which drives up the cost for US consumers.

        This results in the price of the item increasing in the US $4.50 over the price determined to be “affordable” which will result in reduced imports and reduced purchases of maple widgets by consumers. Canada now has to find somewhere else to sell their maple widgets since the US isn’t buying at the same rate which drives down the value of maple widgets in Canada.

        And if the US was feeling particularly vengeful at being denied their cheap steady supply of maple widgets, they could convince other countries to not buy Canadian widgets at all or impose a blanket ban on all Canadian goods (see: how the US obliterated the economy of Cuba because of “communism” which was really just Cuba not wanting to be the US’s sugar plantation anymore).

        Canada will evaluate this and determine that selling maple widgets is essential to their economy and less profit for their maple widget industry is an agreeable trade compared to the US not buying at all.

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          Ah, man, thank you for this. I became just a little bit wiser today. Love you.

          how the US obliterated the economy of Cuba because of “communism” which was really just Cuba not wanting to be the US’s sugar plantation anymore

          Oof. I did not know this. That’s scummy af.