Basically, It would be nice to point out what those platforms are & what are their “Killer Features”
- Lemmy pros: Fast, mature, everyone knows it
- Lemmy cons: Shouty communists, atrocious mod tools
- Mbin pros: Follow Mastodon people
- Mbin cons: (1) Ugly (2) Awkward (3) What the fuck is “Magazines”
- Piefed pros: Python, some semblance of responsiveness to what features people actually want in it
- Piefed cons: What the fuck is a Piefed
(all is satire, I love you guys)
I can’t emphasize enough how bad Lemmy’s moderation tools are. It’s not just that they’re abysmally anemic (including that you can’t perform moderator actions on someone in your community without a comment of theirs to click the context menu on? what??). It’s not just that reports don’t synchronize correctly across instances (i.e. if you want to moderate a community on another instance, you’re at a severe disadvantage). It’s that they’re wildly fragmented, presented just all over the place like some kind of scavenger hunt.
- As I said previously, the context menu of a comment is the only way you can ban and unban users (except that you actually can ban them if you use the API directly).
- Moderation has zero hierarchy, so 1) any moderator if they want to can perform a Night of the Long Knives and become the sole moderator (fine for now when admins can quickly intervene, but impossibly stupid if Lemmy ever became bigger), and 2) every moderator has access to all of the tools (including appointing other mods).
- You can’t view a list of banned users and unban them from there; this gets back into point 1 where you need to dig up the last comment on your community (not easily if you removed it) to unban them.
- On Voyager (third-party mobile app), I have more tools than I do on desktop, which indicates to me that the tools are there in the API but just aren’t exposed on desktop for some god-forsaken reason.
- I literally can’t even view a per-community modlog on desktop. I have to go out and find the Lemmy.World modlog (usually from a search engine) and then filter by action and pray that it was recent enough that I can find it in the rest of the heap.
- Oh, but don’t worry. There’s a third-party tool for viewing the modlog, which is just ??? What the fuck?? How is this in some random tool you have to go searching for instead of in Lemmy proper? And even then, this tool has its flaws.
On Voyager (third-party mobile app), I have more tools than I do on desktop, which indicates to me that the tools are there in the API but just aren’t exposed on desktop for some god-forsaken reason.
Apollo was also better at moderating Reddit than whatever Reddit could put out so you could say Voyager goes above and beyond at cloning Apollo.
Mbin has better support for microblogs and Mastodon federation than Lemmy. I also prefer the default front-end of Mbin to Lemmy, but Lemmy has better alternative frontends and apps. I think it’s great to support Mbin as well.
Piefed/mbin both have better fediverse integration with other platforms. Lemmy has the numbers and is super fast + apps.
Mbin has microblogg and thread support, so you can post and respond to both formats, piefed and mbin both have the goal of letting instance owners or ppl make topics that contain multiple communities to make it easier to sub to similar topics, like subbing to linux topic for linux, linuxmemes, etc. instead of subbing one by one and finding communities whos name may not fit what they are
Right now lemmy has better app support, eventually Id love to see just one client/app that supports threads, microblogging, etc. with feeds, you kinda have to build your feed brick by brick with friendica, streams, hubzilla, etc. but they connect them all, letting you browse and post to communities you’re subbed to, reply and see peoples microblogging stuff,no apps tho
tl;dr:
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Lemmy for apps (shit moderation tools)
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Piefed for fast development rate, responsive dev and great features (no apps at all)
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Mbin for keeping your forum and microblog account in one place (really awkward to use)
Piefed is almost perfect, if it actually had apps then it’d probably blow all of these out the water (in my opinion, of course)
Can’t go wrong with any.
I wouldn’t say mbin is awkward to use, but microblogging is included as a bit of a second thought. It’s still nice to be able to communicate with the fediverse at large.
PieFed feels faster than the others to me. It has good support for various content (like peertube channels), allows for content filtering with keywords, has combined communities, and a lot of other clever stuff.
Yeah it was a poor choice of words. I just see no reason to put my forum account with my microblog account and it just feels wrong how they implemented it. It’s clear they focused on only the forum part and just kinda implemented the microblog part later.
Piefed is amazing, though the fact that there’s no apps or clients at all. They’re hard to make since there’s no API, correct me if i’m wrong though.
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