Summary
Ukraine is hesitating to sign a U.S.-backed deal that would grant American companies access to 50% of its rare earth minerals in exchange for continued military support.
President Zelenskyy cited legal concerns and the lack of security guarantees.
The deal, pushed by Trump allies, aims to showcase Ukraine’s value to U.S. interests while reducing reliance on Chinese minerals.
However, Kyiv’s 2021 strategic partnership with the EU complicates negotiations, as European leaders resist surrendering shared resources to Washington. Talks remain ongoing.
Poor Ukraine. One side wants to kill them all and steal the land, another side wants to rape its land, not to mention bordering Belarus, Slovakia and Hungary who are the bitches of Putin. We live in a sad reality
Ukraine got used to weaken Putin and now the US sweeps in and recoups the cost for free. Ukrainians lose part of their country to Russia and hand over the minerals of the other half to America.
Imagine being Ukrainian and having died for this.
the ‘deal’ the diaper is working on between him and ukraine is a sham.
i think the real ‘deal’ is between him and putin: ‘give us (me) half of some of the goodies there and we’ll not stand in your way to take the whole thing’
I agree that the deal is a sham, but I think the goal was to present a deal so obviously unacceptable to Ukraine that they would be bound to refuse and Trump can then point to it and say Ukraine is uncooperative therefore he can refuse to support them any further.
Handover the mineral wealth in Crimea and other occupied areas subject to them being under Ukrainian control but leave mineral wealth in free Ukraine out of the deal to provide some motivation for Dopey Donald.
Seriously. The biggest deposit is sitting in occupied land…
The biggest deposit is currently sitting in the White House.
What happens if he signs the deal, gets the aid, beats Russia back and reneges? Serious question.
“American warship, go fuck yourself.”
The US already abandoned their promise to protect Ukraine from a Russian invasion after they agreed to give up their nuclear arsenal, so I can’t imagine why they would trust us this time especially with a nutjob like Trump at the helm.
The US promised they would not invade Ukraine, but they never promised they would protect Ukraine.
The US promised to aid Ukraine should they ever be invaded after giving up their nuclear arms. Go read the Budapest Memorandum, specifically section 4.
Section 4:
The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used
The US promised to seek action from the UN Security Council if Ukraine suffered or was threatened with nuclear attack.
Ukraine hasn’t suffered a nuclear attack. Even so, the US did seek action from the Security Council, but it was predictably vetoed by Russia.
Commas. “object of act of aggression” and “object of threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used” are two different, independent, conditions.
And btw China seems to be enforcing the latter. They independently gave Ukraine nuclear guarantees, just shy of calling it a nuclear umbrella, and there has been a suspicious absence of nuclear threats against Ukraine while there’s no shortage of Russian threats against NATO.
There are no commas in the text. And even under your interpretation, the US is only obligated to seek action by the UN Security Council. They have done so.
American promises aren’t worth shit. Just ask the Native Americans, the Kurds, and probably a bunch more countries.
Like a reasonable person who sees a proposal with huge future impact - he is likely consulting lawyers (“is this permissible by law?”) and other politicians (“is this a good move currently or strategically?”).
Then comes time to present counter-proposals. One of them may be “we get considerably more help from Europe and they don’t ask for half of the country’s minerals - on this background, let’s revise assistance and security guarantees upwards”.
Trump’s current proposal is such a poorly chosen one that one could show it to Xi and ask “for this extreme price, would you reign in your vassal named Putin, and cut exports of anything with a microchip into Russia?”.
Trumps idea here is much more than the usual Trump stupidity. First, Trump gets fat mineral rights for doing about nothing. The Ukraine loses 20% of its original (pre-2014) size, but gains no real security like a NATO membership. And the Europeans should work and pay for all this, while having no say in the whole thing.
This is no deal, this is rape.
You’re one hundred percent correct aside from:
theUkraine.
EU could just make him a better deal?
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Require enough support from the US to push out Russia completely out of ALL occupied territories, including Crimea.
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Require full and permanent membership of NATO
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Allow access to 25% and only from uninhabited areas that aren’t nature reserves. Leave it up to the US to pillage and destroy the country completely
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Just tell the US they can have any resources they can liberate from Russia. We’d have tanks at Moscow in hours.
Hahahaha.
Dude, like half the reason of this war is about control over Ukraine’s resources.
It’s like his version of Putin’s special military operation.
Special wartime profiteering?
DONT SIGN SHUT from the Orange Retard
Well duh. Trump is incapable of meaning anything he says.
not worth the paper it was printed on
At this point I wonder who is worse Trump or Putin.
Both are worse than the other.
Obviously this is not something you can base a deal on, but I think a lot of the stupid shit Trump is doing will be undone if the US ever has another election. So in four years, the deal will be overturned or renegotiated. Maybe it can even be declared void?
I hate to break it to you, but this is Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin’s party now. America died in November and gave way to some bastardized techno-autocracy-kleptocracy mutant.
Here’s a great piece to get up to speed quickly. Good luck out there! https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas
Something like this is why I put an if in “if the US ever has another election”.
The Republican Party controls the entire U.S. federal government.
Why would they ever willingly give that up? Because the laws say they have to? The laws they’ve been ignoring?
