Sec. 2. Closing the Department of Education and Returning Authority to the States. (a) The Secretary of Education shall, to the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return authority over education to the States and local communities while ensuring the effective and uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.
The Department of Education currently manages a student loan debt portfolio of more than $1.6 trillion. This means the Federal student aid program is roughly the size of one of the Nation’s largest banks, Wells Fargo. But although Wells Fargo has more than 200,000 employees, the Department of Education has fewer than 1,500 in its Office of Federal Student Aid. The Department of Education is not a bank, and it must return bank functions to an entity equipped to serve America’s students.
Move student loans to private banks! There it is.
so what im hearing is the DoE was way more efficent, and deserved additional funding, right?
What I understand is that they are more efficient, and loans aren’t even it’s core business…
I mean they basically already do this, my student loan was moved to a private servicer which basically is just a company that collects the money from my loans.
Would this mean people can finally default on those loans? That would at least be a silver lining.
The US is rapidly becoming the world’s largest third-world country.
Depending on where you go they long have been. As a Canadian the difference between our countries is jarring as soon as you step off the beaten path.
Edit - I wanted to elaborate for those not in the know. I grew up lower middle class in Canada and have been to many smaller areas in America over the years. The poor in Canada still have education and healthcare covered by the state. Poor people are easily distinguishable but at the same time they are very much the same as everyone else.
In Canada, you take the wrong turn and you’re going to be met by a friendly stranger who will help you and point you in the right direction. In America, you take the wrong turn and you’re Ned Beatty in Deliverance.
The true stereotype isn’t that Canadians are overly nice. The true stereotype is that Americans are overly hateful.
Canada is what America could be if it valued the health and well being of its citizens. Not that we are doing much better but if America is at a 1 and Denmark is at a 10, Canada is at least in the 6-7 range
Edit - government debt to GDP is very telling for all countries btw. Canada is at 70% since the pandemic which is high compared to before the pandemic when we were in the high 50% range. In comparison America is 124%.
So Canada is getting far more for less money. The robber barons really have a hold down there.
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/canada/government-debt--of-nominal-gdp
50 third world countries in a trenchcoat.
Hey, California’s not that bad! …I think? Hope?
Fun fact. The United States is and always will be 1st world by definition. The 'Three Worlds ’ model comes down to the cold war where a country is aligned with the United States, the Soviet Union, or neutral. Switzerland is a 3rd world country. What people generally call the third world is better describe as ‘global south’, and they either ignore 1st and 2nd world completely or neglect the 2nd world completely and call themselves the 1st world. With regard to the United States I think you mean it’s becoming the biggest fucking piece of shit country, or you might mean it is no longer aligned with itself, plans to leave NATO, is not aligned with the soviet union, and is then by definition the largest 3rd world country.
I mean… You have the assumption that definitions do not change.
Huh. I always thought it was 1st, democracy, 2nd communism, 3rd all else. I’ll be damned it literally was just “hey these guys don’t like us, and these guys really don’t like us and they also hate the soviets.”
Becoming? One could argue it’s already there and has been.
No, they’re about as capitalist as you can be. Wtf.
“Becoming”? Do a search for “Portland tent city”.
Because US Americans are too damn educated today and we need them to be less educated /s
The poor masses are to be used as cannon fodder and slaves for the privately educated children of the ruling class.
I’m sorry anyone in a red state. You and your children will never learn a goddamn thing of worth again. Fuck this country.
My mom is a school counselor at a tiny school in a tiny town in Montana. There is no way the school stays open. Or 90% of our public schools for that matter. Part of me wants to tell her “I told you so” but generally it just sucks so bad I don’t have the energy
But they do need to be constantly reminded that their actions are what put us in this place. Forgiveness can only go so far before you have to hold people accountable for their actions. Otherwise, nothing will ever change, just continual repeat.
I’m so grateful my daughter hated Indiana her entire life and fled to Illinois immediately after undergrad. Two of my grandchildren are there with her, and I have one here. I’ll be ensuring his parents read to him because I know I will. And I’ll campaign to his other grandparents and aunts. I refuse to let that boy get fucked over because this country is full of stupid misogynistic, racists cunts.
Good news! They already weren’t. Red state public schools have been indoctrination camps for about a decade now.
That doesn’t sound like good news at all.
Is america already great again?
The hilarious thing about that is, up into the 1970s secondary education in California was free to CA residents, and out of state students paid far less then $200 a semester.
Remember this, Reagan started this.
Make america Gregg again — the dyslexic
The fun thing is that authority over education is already in the hands of the states. And I bet that ED is already understaffed, so they probably can’t ensure the things in the last line if they fire people. All that makes the order effectively already met.
good, now we can finally indebt 8 year olds too not just college students. they had it too good for too long
–trump, probably
I’ve definitely heard of lunch debt, so I think it’s already happening.
The conservatives have been objecting to the Dept of Education since its inception just after the Civil War.
Their objectio then is the same now. Alrhough they don’t say it out loud anymore.
That it is dangerous, to the wealthy, to educate the lower classes
America is an unserious country.
This entire executive order is about privatizing education and taking control of the loans to give to billionaires. States already fund their own education.
This really doesn’t effect the states education budget too much.
doesn’t affect* the states’* education budgets*
Well, he does love the uneducated…
HE got by without an education. So can you.
It turns out the ones indoctrinating the kids have been the conservatives all along.
Fuck school choice vouchers.
And the voucher / charter system is exactly what evangelicals (sorry, christofascists) want, because it strengthens their Western civilization (sorry, white nationalism).
The stupidest part of all this is its going to hurt the red states the most. Blue states already have great education
Fuck the red states. Let em rot.
Sadly a lot of good people still live in red states. I’d prefer them not to suffer because of what they’re “betters” decide for them.
You are assumng that an educated population is a goal.
Can conservatives even get more stupid?
I would have thought voting for a felon rapist traitor who gives tax breaks to the wealthy over an actual prosecutor was rock bottom.
But I guess there is no rock bottom for conservatives.
The rock bottom is mass murder and wars that kill millions or billions — considering nukes and global warming — up to and including the extinction of the species, and death of the planet.
Sometimes I feel like we deserve it
You might, I don’t associate with them.
With … Earth?
You heard 'em. They ain’t from round 'ere.
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You ever hear of the war of northern aggression? How about the traitor of the union Abe Lincoln?
You are gonna hear alot of this in the future
But but…the Republicans are the party of Lincoln!
It’s all to have the state gov’ts use tax money to fund religious schools.
Only if they go to Jupiter.
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The poorly educated are more susceptible to misinformation and manipulation. This will make the red states redder.
They are already red. What difference does it make?
They will realise how fucked they are once their doctors start treating them with leeches again.
It continues to entrench people and keep congressional seats secured for generations.
It’s one more deposit in their insurance plan.
They won’t realise it. By that point, they’d probably think leeches is better than vaccine or surgery because it’s natural.
wouldnt that mean itll affect blue states the most? they cant break whats already broken, but can surely break that which works well
No. Most blue states have adequate taxation to maintain operations without federal funds, and the federal funds go towards enhancements. Actually I’m pretty certain this won’t affect any blue state beyond a headache of having to rearrange budgets. But I also happen to know that a lot of school districts in my state at least anticipated this happening and have taken measures in advance to keep the education unimpeded.
Edit: additionally, most blue states only receive funds from the Dept. of Education in the forms of higher education. This will have a lasting impact on academia, but not basic education, which is far more vital.
Ok, so sure, a reasonably large chunk of all states education budget is going away, but for the states that do well, the hole will both be a smaller portion of the overall budget, and easier to make up.
No child left behind testing goes away, so the testing and standards all go away. You can bet the bottom 25 states in education ranking will quietly stop testing and claim they’re doing just great!
It’s the special Ed programs that are really going to catch hell. No dept. of Ed. no enforcement of standards. It will be the easiest portion to cut to save money, and the families left in the lurch will get nothing but thoughts and prayers to fill the gap.
Blue states have the money to deal with the issue on its own.
Red states want this.
The way a child wants to stick a fork in an outlet.
The way peasants do what the feudal lord commands.
This is the information that they don’t hear or that they believe is “fake news”
But although Wells Fargo has more than 200,000 employees, the Department of Education has fewer than 1,500 in its Office of Federal Student Aid.
So it’s more efficient than a bank, BUT needs to be run by an actual bank? How stupid does he think we are?
77,302,580 americans are that stupid…
How stupid does he think we are?
Before or after destroying the Department of Education? The entire reason behind this is that uneducated people don’t know their rights or how the government works, so the GOP can run roughshod over our rights.
It’s white supremacy all the way down. We never excised them from society. We need radiation and chemotherapy for the cancer that evangelicals (christofascists) are.
