A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.

  • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    While this is welcome news, it’s also depressing that we live in a timeline stupid enough that bathroom panics are enough of a thing that there are laws on the books like this to be struck down by judges (and of course, the fact that other judges are likely to reverse this ruling).

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      1 year ago

      Would you be ok with 17 year old boys to use the girls toilets at school if they just say that they identify as a girl?

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        1 year ago

        What is the issue you have with it, really? You think that people are going to go into the bathroom and do something nefarious?

        Before asking us why we think it’s okay, let’s really drill down into what you’re so worried about.

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        Well if they aren’t a boy then it wouldn’t matter and I would be fine with my daughter sharing a locker room/bathroom. I’m more worried about her being shot and killed than someone who is trans in the bathroom with her.

        People don’t just wake up one day and go “I’m a girl! Hyuk! I’m going to go be a girl just to get in the bathroom! Hyuk!”

        People don’t do that, especially trans people. Get your head out of your ass.

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        Two things to ponder if you dont understand why people might answer “yes.”: Boys pissing in public on trees and in bushes is a normal thing, especially among circles expressing concern about a society that acknowledges trans people exist. Boys using toilets is a plus, at all ages. Second: every Porta potty in existence seems to operate with its gender neutrality without the same kind of panic. If you can square these two notions: Boys using a toilet isn’t odd, strange, or worth a moral panic. You might then see your question isn’t about toilets, and about gendered space and how important it is to have spaces that are exclusive and exclusionary based on something like gender, (or even… other things!)

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          Of course my point is about having separate spaces that are exclusive to the two sexes. Males commit the overwhelmingly large percentage of sex crimes. Giving males free access to women’s safe spaces is not going to end well.

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            You’re making the unnecessary leap of toilets>sex. And then further to sex>sex crimes. This is why I mentioned portapotties. These are gender neutral public toilets found all over the nation. Are portapotties offensive? Sexual dens?

            Toilets and bathrooms are perfectly functional as gender neutral spaces. The insistence that a transperson using the bathroom that aligns with their gender is somehow an invitation for sex crime just doesn’t have much basis.

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        Why do questions like this always sound like the person asking is just putting a question mark at the end of something they’ve considered doing?

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          Ah yes, the people that are against letting men in the women’s spaces are the ones that want to go in women’s spaces. Impeccable logic you have there.

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            Trans women are women, bigot.

            I’d imagine that trans women don’t want to use the men’s room because of people like you who consider restrooms to be peeping opportunities.

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              1 year ago

              I’m talking sex, not gender.

              Quit the name calling.

              Also again with trying to deflect and call the people that want to stop any potential for “peeping opportunities” the ones that are the “peepers” lol. Make it make sense.

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                Also again with trying to deflect and call the people that want to stop any potential for “peeping opportunities” the ones that are the “peepers” lol.

                I don’t want 11 year old girls being forced to use men’s restrooms. Why do you want that so badly?

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                  11 year old biological boys you mean?

                  Why do you so desparately want biological males to be allowed in to female-only spaces? You’re trying to make out that the people that don’t want biological males in biological female toilets are the creepy ones here and it’s bizarre lol.

                  Why do you want 11 year old biological girls in the mens toilets with you? Why do you want that so badly?

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                    I think people should use the restroom that corresponds to their gender. You keep going on about meaningless biological differences and making up hypotheticals about men in women’s restrooms. The story is about a girl using the women’s restroom. Note: they’re not called “Biologically male restrooms” or “Biologically female restrooms”. They’re men’s restrooms and women’s restrooms. Gender. The social construct. Not the genitalia that you keep obsessing over.

                    Do you seriously believe that someone would go to all the trouble of dealing with the bullshit that bigots are delighted to put trans people through just to perv on people in the commode? Do you think the 11 year old plaintiff in the story is doing that? Are you really gonna libel an 11 year old?