The Nashville district attorney called on Wednesday for the Tennessee legislature to make it easier to commit someone to a mental institution after a man who was previously released for incompetence to stand trial was accused of shooting an 18-year-old college student in the head.

Belmont University student Jillian Ludwig, of New Jersey, was walking on a track in a local park when she was shot and critically wounded at about 2:30 p.m. Tuesday, according to the Metro Nashville Police. They arrested Shaquille Taylor, 29, after surveillance video and witness statements pointed to him as the shooter.

“Taylor was shooting at a car when a bullet hit Ludwig in the head as she walked on a track in a park across the street,” police said on social media when announcing the arrest Wednesday.

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    So because he had pneumonia-induced brain damage, he should be permanently imprisoned?

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      He should be prevented from being free in society since he has demonstrated he’s too dangerous to be out unsupervised.

      Whatever form that restriction takes is up for discussion, saying he’s not fit to stand trial and then letting him loose is obviuosly not the answer.

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        saying he’s not fit to stand trial and then letting him loose is obviuosly not the answer.

        I didn’t say it was.

        Whatever form that restriction takes is up for discussion

        Yes. That’s exactly the discussion. Where will you put him, if not jail?

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          My opinion in an ideal world is to bring back asylums but do it proper this time with careful consideration for due process, checks and balances, and fair conditions.

          But the realistic side of me knows that’s a big ask and doesn’t trust the government to do anything right.

          There’s also a part of me that thinks, for certain crimes it’s a [I’m drawing a blank on the word here] that you’re mentally-ill because no sane person would do ___________ and anyone that does ________ should be in prison.

          Ultimately I think asylums for the ones where there’s no hope of improvement or that become murderous when off their meds, and remote rehab facility type things for the ones that are less serious.

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            I appreciate the detail, and I don’t disagree with anything you’ve written. I simply have a problem with people who look at a situation like this and their immediate reaction is “that person should be locked up.” (not saying you said that, mind you)

            To those people, I say: We tried involuntary institutionalization for a long, long time, and it was an unmitigated disaster where people with legitimate mental illnesses were driven more into psychosis as a result of subhuman treatment and relentless stigma. We know a lot more about mental illness than we did just a few short decades ago, and the longer we ignore that those maladies are just as much “illnesses” as things like the flu, the more we invite violence like this. Mental illness is a problem none of us give a single shit about until an untreated, hopelessly abandoned person with a crippling mental illness does something that directly impacts one of the rest of us. Then suddenly it’s knives out. None of us want to pay enough to fix the system, we just want to bitch and complain inside our safe little bubbles where we can rely on a retributive justice system to repeatedly dole out harsh punishment that gives us an illusory sense of security so we can go back to our normal lives. Folks fire off “thoughts and prayers”, we put the person in jail (or to death), wash, rinse, repeat.

            Sorry for the rant. Coming from someone who lost a bipolar family member to suicide, people like this piss me the fuck off, and I just had to put it out there.

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      Yes. If that’s what you call a care facility.

      In any case, he clearly shouldn’t be out in society. If he’s not responsible for his own actions, he should be in a place where other people are responsible. How can you actually advocate for a violent, mentally deficient man to be out and about, with access to guns? Clearly you don’t give a shit about his young victim and her family, or the kids and mother he terrorized previously.

      When you’re threatening my family do you think I give a flying fuck about my attackers mental well being? It’s not my problem, it’s not my concern.

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        Yes. If that’s what you call a care facility.

        I don’t call prison a care facility.

        In any case, he clearly shouldn’t be out in society. If he’s not responsible for his own actions, he should be in a place where other people are responsible.

        Not unsupervised, no. He should be granted access to shelter and provided treatment. He should have a permanent legal guardian. If he cannot afford one, or one does not volunteer, one should be appointed by the state. Our taxes should pay for a competent, trained, and well-staffed social services program that can meet demand and ensure his safety and the safety of others around him. He should be barred from owning or possessing a weapon. It’s amazing how many valid alternatives you can come up with when you go one step further than “hE sHoUlDn’T bE lEt OuT1!!!”

        How can you actually advocate for a violent, mentally deficient man to be out and about, with access to guns? Clearly you don’t give a shit about his young victim and her family, or the kids and mother he terrorized previously.

        I didn’t say anything of the sort, jackass. Shove your knee-jerk righteous indignation where the sun don’t shine, broseph.

        When you’re threatening my family do you think I give a flying fuck about my attackers mental well being? It’s not my problem, it’s not my concern.

        So long as you understand that you’re advocating that we indefinitely imprison the mentally ill, I don’t give a shit what you think, say, or do.