I dunno my dude, KFC chicken be shrinkin’…
That’s good. The fucking broilers these days eat eachother because they need the energy. And it’s not from hormones like that guy below says. It’s from selective breeding. But they do grow fucking fast and it’s not the ones we eat that we need to worry about primarily, it’s their mothers that we need to keep alive through that bullshit. Using smaller, slower growing chickens is more responsible.
Heritage breeds are the way to go if you can find them. Taste better and typically more humanely raised.
Heritage breeds are not that hard to find, at least in my country.
We even have a heritage book and recognized breeders get special perks.
That’s a drumlet
I’ll be honest, I’ve never heard of a drumlet before I posted this thread.
But our KFC order was literally a 12 piece legs and thighs. So why we get this jank shit?
So they can scam people who don’t know what a drumlet is
They look exactly like drumsticks, only smaller.
The chickens aren’t separated in the store; all the butchering and separating happens in the factory. The store gets boxes of legs, boxes of breasts, boxes of thighs, etc.
It seems plausible someone was very new and mistook the drumlet bin for the drumstick bin. I’d bet your order wasn’t the only mistake before someone noticed and corrected them.
It may be worth contacting the shop with your photo, because it will be obvious to them that is a drumlet. May be worth a free meal.
No. You don’t get it. These are not drumlets, and KFC has been doing this for years.
Okay, that’s weird. I get KFC on occasion and haven’t noticed any appreciable change in the drumstick size. The one in your photo is tiny and appears to be the same shape and size as a standard drumlet.
Is this at a certain location, or more than one?
Location area Gautier Mississippi, 39553
I’m quite far from you, so maybe this is a regional thing. That’s odd and frustrating.
Other nearby KFC areas seem to do the same.
In about 65 million years this guy will be the size of a T-Rex
At thw current rrate of growth it would be larger than the earth in under 1500 years.
They did the math They did the monster math
I guess that’s also why people started having turkey for big family gatherings even through chicken tastes better.
Now a chicken is perfectly adequate for a family of four, or even six depending on the trimmings.
I don’t necessarily want them bigger. I want them to have 12 legs and wings so there’s more of the good parts.
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It would destroy the poultry industry at least. Nobody would be able to catch a 12 legged chicken. They’re too fast.
That’s a lot of legs. Would it move like a spider, a crab, or a centipede? Or perhaps an octopus?
I want to prompt an ai with this, but I’m afraid of o what I might see.
Squidbillies did it
A 2kg chicken is enough for four where two are children
Took a long time to pokevolve.
The explanation behind this is actually pretty disturbing. Due to selective breeding
the growth hormones we feed chickensin America, the chickens become fully grown much earlier than usual. It’s like the equivalent of becoming a fully grown adult by the time you are the age of five, but you still have the mental and muscle capacity of a five year old.Between 1957 and 2005, chickens raised for their meat quadrupled in size due to selective breeding. They grow to their slaughter weight in just 6 weeks, and their legs often struggle to support their own body weight.
Chickens do not receive any hormones. It’s been banned in poultry in the U.S. since the 1950’s when it was tested and shown to be ineffective. Beef commonly gets hormone implants in their ears. No hormones are approved or used in feed.
The rapid growth of the birds is mostly due to selective breeding and nutritional improvements. The growth rate and adult size in animals can be massively changed by breeders. Just look at the Great Dane and mini-yorky in dogs.
They also use antibiotics in the feed to reduce the bacteria load of the birds. This does increase the growth rate and reduces sick birds and deaths. It is not a good idea when it comes to antibiotic resistance buildup in bacteria however.
For any Canadians reading this, adding hormones or steroids to meat and dairy animals has always been prohibited here for all types of livestock.
Antibiotics are allowed on sick cows and pigs but they can’t be used for dairy or meat until they’ve been off the antibiotics for a period of time that is supposed to be long enough to flush it from their system. Chickens are too short lived and antibiotics are prohibited if they are to be sold for human consumption.
You know how A&W advertises that their beef is free of added hormones and steroids? Well that’s actually true for all meat sold in Canada. A&W is just the only one advertising it. Pretty clever as campaign, actually.
They’re also asbestos free!
Popeyes Chicken: now 100% less radioactive!
Coincidentally, this also blocks most of the importation of chicken and beef from the U.S. giving their domestic producers an almost exclusive market.
A happy little accident I guess.
There are a lot of reasons to shit on the beef and dairy cartels in Canada, and they have definitely captured the market with regulation, but I don’t believe this is an example of that. I think this is a good safety regulation that actually is in the interest of average Canadians for once.
That’s what regulations are supposed to do, and the very large network of regulations working within and across industries are nearly invisible to the public because they’re beneficial. Some regulations were put in place to serve malicious actors at the expense of the public, but they’re not the norm, and many do get repealed when more people become aware of their damage.
This seems like a good example of regulations improving the system, which also had beneficial knock-on effects.
They also use antibiotics in the feed […] It is not a good idea
It’s a fucking collision course with reality doomed to send us back to the 19th century.
But of course, for a short duration of human history, it marginally increased the profits for stakeholders.
I’ve raised Cornish crosses and fed them normal, quality feed without any hormones: they ended up looking just like the chicken on the right at about 8 weeks old.
They’ve been selectively bred over the decades to grow as fast as possible, as big as possible, docile, and stupid.
Hormones in farm feed have been abolished back in the 80s. This is from breeding selective breeds . Stop watching shitty Facebook videos. Your brain has been rotted.
I literally corrected the sentence from “hormones” to “selective breeding” and it’s still factual. Simple mistake. I don’t watch shitty Facebook videos, and my brain isn’t rotten… I just miss remembered what I assume was the scene from super size me 2 mentioned by another poster.
I also included a quote and a citation and my original post about how they grow so large so fast they often collapse under their own weight.
Truly the greatest of errors misremebering that was because of hormones 🙄
Mis remembering hormones? Come on. That is a distinction you don’t ‘mis remember’ seeing as that was the catch phrase of the 2012 sensationalist click bait of the millennium for the PETA. That single phrase laboured under staged farm videos was essentially what dropped their credibility to zero.
You don’t mis remember what reduced an entire movement to fraud.
It’s not hormones, non-medical antibiotic use is absolutely a contributing factor though.
They literally said ‘hormones’ and even admitted to changing it after once they entire internet called them out on it.
non-medical antibiotic
in humans
Important distinction.
Sorry what about in humans ?
I was pretty clear to be quoting YOU on the antibiotic quote. I can’t believe your audacity to spread misinformation without researching it first. Do your own homework.
What the heck are you talking about? I work in the meat industry, non-medical antibiotics is extensively used in poultry in the US and many other countries to cause them to grow larger. It was discovered in the 50s that continuous antibiotic use in poultry caused them to grow substantially faster. This is also done in many other livestock animals.
As for the first half of my statement, I was agreeing with their correction that growth hormones have been banned for some time but I was pointing out that this is often confused with antibiotic use for growth which is still very much a thing.
Vegan not lying to try to make a point, challenge level impossible
What’s disturbing about it?
If you watch Super Size Me 2, they go into a lot more detail on why the selective breeding is so disturbing.
Amoung other things, the birds are bred for meat muscle development, their cardiovascular systems have not been equally enhanced and as a result, chicken farmers know that the birds are big enough for slaughter because some of them will just start dropping dead of heart failure.
Piggybacking on this comment, but i never realized until I started keeping chickens that meat birds get so disproportionately huge that you can’t allow them to roost / have to have a ramp out of their coop. If they jump, they’ll blow out their legs when they land and just…die. They’re literally bred to be incompatible with life, as no one really needs them to live long anyway.
It’s like the movie “Big”, except the chicken did not wish for it.
Growth hormones in your food - what could go wrong?
I don’t know what could possibly go wrong, so I’m asking you.
Is that actually bad or is it a conspiracy theory?
Nah hormones in food = poison. Any amount, even a molecule will absolutely destroy your every organ.
Source: trust me bro
Go vegan
Oh thanks.
Everyone in Iceland just starved to death.
No, we want to eat the hormone infused turkey chicken hybrid!
Turducken would like a word.
How else we can grow Manboob?
I’m happy to eat meat if it tastes good. They are animals after all.
I’m happy to eat meat if it tastes good. They are animals after all.
sensory pleasure doesn’t justify unnecesary pain and death
it does if its pain and death of animals
Non-human animals share all the traits you value in humans to not inflict pain and death on them. Ability to feel pain, have future goals and desires, build social bonds etc. Choosing to hurt them purely because they’re animals is arbitrary. Would you be fine with someone hurting and then killing and eating someone’s dog just because it falls into your two criteria? Tastes good and causes death and pain to an animal.
I dont want to inflict pain on humans specifically because they are humans. Your desire to not hurt these animals is just as arbitrary as my indifference to their suffering.
My desire to not hurt animals isn’t because they’re animals. Discriminating against non-human animals is just an arbitrary class like discrimimating on race, intelligence, or sexuality etc. It’s more reasonable to choose morally relevant principles like whether or not we should inflict suffering, death, or mass breed their species and propetually deny them of freedom because they can feel pain, they want to live, and they want to be free. There’s no trait that is specifically for humans and not for non-human animals and thus its arbitrary.
sensory pleasure doesn’t justify unnecesary pain and death
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So is that username pronounced “Ho Mobile” as in a car for hoes or “Homo Bile” as in stomach acid from gay people?
Or even Ho Mobile, as in a phone company
Homo bi le
I like big breast.
I like big scales
50! She’s a tough old bird.
this chicken is probably less than 2 years old. chickens could live for 10years if they’d be left alone.
I don’t think chickens raised for meat live anywhere near 2 years. Yeah, a quick google shows around a 2 month harvest time for chickens raised for meat. That’s a big part of why chickens are such amazing creatures and make such an affordable protein source, they can be sustainably* harvested year round. (Sustainably as in without decreasing the size of your flock.)
Laying hens are productive for two to three years. They rarely make it into the human food supply though, after that long the texture and flavor of the meat changes and American consumers don’t prefer it. You can probably get them through a local butcher shop, though they might have to order it for you.
In a small and well managed flock, chickens can live 6 to 8 years. In the wild, I don’t think modern chickens would exist at all. Ask anyone who’s kept chickens, keeping the hawks and foxes and raccoons etc. out of them is a constant and eternal struggle.
Laying hens also are productive way beyond their ancestors with 10-20 eggs, which takes a big toll on their bones. According to a study from the university of Kassel an estimated 23-69% per flock come to the slaughtering line with broken keelbones, wings and legs from egg calcium depletion, rough handling and crammed cages.
Egg factory farming is an all around brutal and despicable industry. Look up what forced molting and maceration means and get your own chickens if you’re able or eat scrambled tofu.
The chickens you would be able to get would be the same chickens used in farming, with all the health issues you mentioned.
And yes tofu scramble is amazing
Ask anyone who’s kept chickens, keeping the hawks and foxes and raccoons etc. out of them is a constant and eternal struggle.
Two things I have learned as a chicken weirdo:
1.) Get dark colored chickens
2.) Get a big mean rooster.
I haven’t lost a chicken so far, but I have seen my bigass stupidly brave rooster take on all comers, he has defeated squirrels, snakes, frogs, mice, and a gopher that was apparently pretty bad at making connections. I’ve watched him chase off a cat and a pretty good sized dog. Foghorn Leghorn is more accurate than I realized.
But more than his incredible dinosaur kung-fu is that he is smart, and communicates with his hens. He will tell them to shelter in the coop, and they will run and hide. A hawk isn’t going to want to deal with 15 pounds of land-bird standing in a small doorway.
For the color, a black or gray chicken will be harder to see against the ground than a white one. Also, I think they look cooler than plain white chickens.
without decreasing the size of your flock.
Read that as “without decreasing the size of your cock”
Surprisingly relevant lol
Ideal period is 7 weeks. Anything below that is not meaty enough, anything above is too old and stringy meat.
Chickens often die shortly after mating. At least, the one I fucked did.
bruh
No. It is much, much, much worse.
I quote :
Broilers chickens are specially bred for fast growth and slaughtered when they weigh approximately four pounds, usually between seven and nine weeks of age. Birds between 12 and 20 weeks of age, typically weighing between five and ten pounds, are called roasters
The same age
Now that I’ve experienced 4202 x gravity, I must train in 4202 x gravity!
420 too g!
I’m biggest bird
This Pokemon has been evolving for half a century…