With all the money going into the Ukraine war and other ventures since Putin came to power, I imagine there’s a lot of stuff he could’ve done to make the world a better place and Russia a formidable world power.

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    The amount of minable materials in the vast area of Siberia could have set russia up as an economic powerhouse. That’s why China is helping them run themselves into the meat grinder in Ukraine. The inevitable collapse will allow them to scoop up the area.

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      Almost every single country with an extraction-based economy is either a dictatorship or a failed state. The single exception is Norway, which discovered oil after it was already an advanced democracy. A country with natural resources does not need to invest in its human capital, or worry about democracy.

      Russia’s natural resources are its curse.

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      in addition to mineral deposits they also have natural gas and historically a good amount of people in the developed cities well trained in math, programming, and technical sciences.

      They could have been an economic powerhouse in 21st century if they weren’t beholden to Putin and oligarchy.

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      I’ve been saying for years, China still wants Yongmingcheng (vladivostok) back. Why fight every country in the pacific aside from North Korea when there’s more arable land and tremendous mineral wealth to the north, and the north will not be able to defend itself.

      I’d love to see how well Russia does against a peer combatant.

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          The Moscow apartment bombings were carried out in 1999. Putin used them, along with the invasion of Dagestan, to launch the Second Chechen War.

          Alexander Litvinenko blamed Putin and the FSB for the bombings. For that he was infamously assassinated with radioactive polonium.

          If Putin were a “good guy” then none of that would’ve happened either, so he might not have won the 2000 election.

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            He was the heir apparent to Yeltsin, which might have given him enough power to win the election by himself.

            I agree Putin didn’t start off as a good guy, but I focused more on his continued presence in power and there was a peaceful transition of power between the two Presidents.

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              Heir apparent is one way to put it. I would argue that he used the Moscow Apartment Bombings as a false flag to install himself, just as Hitler did with the Reichstag Fire.

              Both leaders (Putin and Hitler) already had a lot of power prior to the false flags but those attacks cemented their rule as dictators.

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    He’d accidentally fall out of a window long before he’d have the chance.

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      Absolutely this. Their commitment to corruption would not tolerate a “good guy” whatever tf that actually means.

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        I don’t think the definition of a good guy has changed recently…

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          I dunno, apparently someone can support a genocide and still be considered a good guy these days.

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    • Established Moscow as an international hub for commerce and industry
    • Waged economical war with China to be the largest economy in Asia
    • Buried the hatchet with Japan over the northern islands
    • Created a direct competitor for BRICS (BICS) and tried to tie his own Asian coalition with the European Union.
    • Rebooted the Russian space program to compete with NASA/SpaceX

    Watching For All Mankind makes me feel bad for present-day Russians because even those Soviet Russians have it better.

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      Watching For All Mankind makes me feel bad for present-day Russians because even those Soviet Russians have it better.

      I just started watching the series and I’m in season 2. I’m loving it so far, and couldn’t agree more.

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    Try to establish a proper western-style liberal democratic system and culture in Russia. They have a constitution that is nominally liberal democratic, but they are so used to authoritarian rule that they can’t really manage to keep it that way.

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      You see, the shape of the asiatic brainpan predisposes the slav to authoritarianism. Russians just have an authoritarian culture. They’re taught to hate freedom and democracy from 2 years old.

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        You’re trying to make them sound racist but that’s really not it. Russia has never been a democracy. They don’t have the culture build by more than a century of democratic rule like America, France or Britain. They don’t have the culture that leads to more than a century of democratic rule. You make it seem comical by saying “they’re taught to hate freedom”, but cultures do vary in how predisposed they are to obeying authority or rebelling against it, among a variety of other things. I mean, just take a look at this. See this if you’ve never seen these terms before.

        Anyway what I’m trying to say is that it takes a lot more work and good faith to keep a democracy going in a country like Russia and China than in Western Europe, where people are more used to and comfortable with fighting authority.

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          Yeah most Americans think that democracy/liberalism is just the natural state of the world and doesn’t need any effort to maintain. That is very much not the case in Russia.

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            That is very much not the case in Russia.

            Or most of the world, really. Source: Am Middle Eastern and don’t like being told what to do. Sometimes it feels like either I or everyone around me is crazy.

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    Use the vast resources to invest in the country such as building green energy, public transportation, plant agriculture, housing, manufacturing and education to try to outcompete the other European nations in metrics such as the democracy index, human happiness index, corruption index.

    Allow the regions to leave any time they want and if that does happen take it as a lesson for his leadership.

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      Joining the EU? Would that have even been possible?

      I mean, I think it would’ve been awesome to be able travel to Russia without a VISA and just start working there…

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        Could be done, it’s a country in Europe. It reaches into Asia, but then again France reaches into South America and nobody complains.

        EU isn’t only about open borders. It’s open market and lots more.

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    The smartest thing any leader could do at this point is educate the next generation.

    He could have opened a lot of colleges and invited scholars from all over the world to come and learn for free.

    Push the US, Europe and China to invest in asteroid mining and space colonization.

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    I don’t like the question because Putin being a good guy is unthinkable to me. Good guys aren’t in Russian politics, or at least not for long. But let’s say Russia had a halfway decent leadership where smart guys don’t fall out of windows. With their vast landmass, resources and workforce, they could easily be the third largest economy in the world again instead of not even making it into the top ten on their way to fall behind Mexico.

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    Abdicate years ago instead of bending the laws that prevented him from ruling indefinitely

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    He could’ve sold all the nuclear warheads in exchange for goods which could be used as a foundation to get the ball rolling for the economic situation.