It’s not the clearest photo, but it clearly has both 2 thumb sticks and 2 track pads.

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    “…it clearly has both 2 thumb sticks and 2 track pads.”

    Hell yes, I am very bullish on the two thumb sticks and two touchpads being the controller format that will establish the steam deck/handheld gaming pc as the future of gamepads.

    It won’t necessarily be a quick, all at once change, but that is because it is a strategic longterm play to reframe what a gamepad is, what its limitations are, and what kind of games can be played with a gamepad.

    It will be the kind of thing people look back and point to as the beginning of the whole industry shifting into a new paradigm where playing cool indie games with a gamepad is something people associate with pc gaming first, console gaming second.

    They just better have a gyro sensor in there too!

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    I’ve pretty much been asking for a steam deck without a screen, so if this leak is accurate than I for one am fucking STOKED

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    what 650g shape are you holding for an hour that doesn’t cause wrist pain?

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    I fear that, just like the Steam Deck’s controller, it won’t be usable without Steam running. IMO by default and without any special “driver” running in the background, the sticks and buttons should just behave like a Xbox controller.

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      The original Steam controller worked without Steam running, even including some of the extra features like mouse and scrolling functions for the trackpads if you wanted it to. So here’s hoping

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      The Steam Deck’s controller is usable without Steam running, except for that long, looong pause when Steam has taken over the controller but isn’t doing anything about it yet.

      I wish that Steam would not put the mouse buttons on the triggers, just leave them on the trackpad-click. And put “high res trackpad scrolling” on the left pad. But you can’t have everything.

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    Non concave? Square trackpads? Clear preference to analog sticks? This seems like a worse Xbox controller on the surface. Unless the ergonomics are somehow amazing I would be hesitant to buy it (and I own an original steam controller).

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    God dammit, why will nobody bring back 6 button pads? I’m so sick and tired of having to buy a separate controller just for fighting games. This controller would be absolutely perfect if it just had two more buttons…

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      Not the same thing, but the steam input allows you to make virtual buttons and assign them to the area of a touchpad.

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        Well that’s better than nothing so I’ll take it.

        I’m just glad that Valve is bringing back the Steam controller. So sick and tired of boring, uninnovative Xbox and Playstation controllers. I like the idea of toggle switches under the controller that aren’t just remaps of existing buttons, and actually usable touchpads. I hope the left stick and D-pad are hot-swappable in the final version, but beggars can’t be choosers.

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      Doesn’t everybody play fighting games on “a piece of plywood with a bunch of arcade buttons jammed into it”?

      Oh, and the backside buttons on the deck are pretty convenient. You might end up liking them more than having “more face buttons than your thumb can reach”.

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    It could just be my screen, but that render is hard AF to decipher. Here’s a quick n dirty curves manipulation to get better contrast.

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      Those trackpads better have damn good palm reject because getting to those thumbsticks without brushing the trackpads will be impossible for many people.

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        People were saying that about the steam deck before it came out. Maybe some people have had issues, but anecdotally I’ve literally never heard one complaint about that from someone who actually used the device. The way the joystick is elevated above the pad your palm really shouldn’t touch it

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        Aside from I don’t think that will actually be an issue, the thumb sticks are likely to have touch sensitivity on top like the steam deck ones have. So they can just disable the TouchPad anytime the thumb stick is being touched.

        Again, though. I don’t think it will be an issue with your palms.

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    Looks good. I just hope they bring back two-stage triggers, as those are missing from the Steam Deck.

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      What’s a two-stage trigger? Analogue until it’s all the way down, then a click (like the GameCube)?

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        This is correct, linear trigger with a click at the end very useful in desktop mode to have it slow the mouse movement with a trigger pull and then the trigger click for the mouse click.

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          The Deck triggers don’t have a physical switch at the end, but Steam Input does have soft pull and full pull mappings as well as settings to change when and how they activate.

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            Not quite the same as you have no tactile feed back on when you are about to enter the full pull part.

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          Oh that’s cool, I’d not even considered using it to control a mouse

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      I got an 8bitdo controller (ultimate 2C or whatever), and it feels really nice. Except the triggers are not two-stage. And it’s smaller.