Apologies if this is not an Ask Lemmy worthy question, but I couldn’t guess an appropriate community to post it to and welcome suggestions to where to move such a question to.
Question is as in the title: how could Batman survive what really seems like a deadly stab by Miranda Tate (=Talia Al Ghul) at the end of the movie and still have the strength to go chase the bomb, the lucidity to set up the autopilot and the coordination to jump off of the bat(wing) to safety?
Wouldn’t he have bled to death (and very quickly too, even if she was trained to miss internal organs)?
We’re shown that she twists the blade too and he feels the pajn (so the armor didn’t really protect him).
Of course, the standard joke answer is that he’s the Batman (so he can take it when others can’t).
The movie is fiction and not intended to be realistic, so there really is no need for an explanation, but at other times it explains things to us. For example, the autopilot explanation at the end of the movie or that, even if it is unrealistic to heal his spine and be able to withstand several botched falls from prison, at least we’re told that he’s nursed back to health by the doctor inmate.
Another good example of this is Bruce Willis’ character in the movie The Sixth Sense. Guy gets shot in near the center of his gut a few minutes into the movie. Then it cuts to six months later and he’s out and about chasing kids?
It was so unrealistic I had to walk out.
🤔 I honestly don’t know if I’m laughing with you or at you right now.
It’s kenm levels of cluelessness, so with, I think.
Ten percent luck, twenty percent skill, fifteen percent concentrated power of will. Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain and a hundred percent reason to remember the bane.
Batman being a masochist would make sense, not sure if that’s ever been canonically explored.
Him liking that genre of music seems less likely, though. I like your subtle change.
Are you suggesting that for the entire climactic finale of this movie, he had a raging BatBoner?
Diverting all that blood away from his wound and into the boner, is what saved his life!
I’m not suggesting he didn’t.
He doesn’t need his name up in lights
It’s just his symbol shining through the dark of the night
He feels so unlike everybody else, alone
In spite of the fact that some people still think that they know him
But fuck 'em, he knows the code, it’s not about the salary
It’s about reality and making some noise
Making a story, making sure his rep stays up
Meaning when Gotham goes down, Batman’s pickin’ it up
Deus Ex Machina.
Realistically? Stabbed somewhere that luckily missed every vital organ and major artery, along with adrenaline and determination.
I’ve seen combat footage of some marine or army guy in the Afghanistan war that got shot in his kidney and didn’t stop to even think about it until he made 3 or 4 trips a few miles up a road pulling others out of the shit. People can take a fuckton of punishment and keep going.
Building on this, and not being too hyperbolic about “realism”: he’s wearing a full body set of reinforced armor, that is almost certainly going to assist in compressing the wound and his injury buying a massive amount of of time to start with. Assuming for 5 seconds he slaps some quick clot into the hole one he get in The Bat, or before, then bleeding out wouldn’t be a main concern, notright away. Organ damage is his biggest risk, and if he avoided a direct stab into a kidney or something (the armor has gaps but still covers vitals), he could live if he’s lucky with some back alley sutures to his intenstine, etc.
So, him living isn’t the most insane thing to consider given his known resources and what he could likely have done in a few moments off screen. And over-explaining it in the moment would’ve killed the pacing of the film.
Sepsis, Batman’s ultimate archenemy.
That’s a unique point of view, thanks!
You also just unlocked a memory of mine: a close friend’s mom once got stabbed close to the heart by a mugger. She went back home and drove herself to the hospital and the nurse was shocked since she couldn’t understand how my friend’s mom made it in her condition.
I guess sheer determination can do miracles!
He was wearing his plot armor.
He’s wearing plot armor.
The answer to all of this is simply that The Dark Knight Rises is an inexplicably terrible movie in nearly every conceivable way. It’s terrible in a vacuum but as a follow up to The Dark Knight, it’s inexcusably stupid and bad.
At least Bane’s voice was funny and fun to imitate
And it did give us this.
Is not. You haven’t seen stupid movies if you think rises is bad only because jumped the shark (when dark Knight did the same as well)
So this isn’t explicitly stated in the movie at all. It’s only reasonable to assume such a wound would cause issues.
Some might consider it a plot hole, I think that’s more reserved for when the movie goes again it’s own internal logic. I’m pretty generous with movies in these situations, either the movie is running on its own logic set, like cartoon logic or superhero logic, or maybe it’s just a detail that could be explained, but it’s more effort than it’s worth.
For this example, you could totally put a scene in there where Bruce covers the wound with batbandage, hits himself with adrenaline or something, but the result is pretty much the same, and the audience is probably not going to be too interested if you explain everything.
So it’s a bit yes you’re right, but also a bit just go along with it if you can think of any logical explanation.
They do this in John wick but it still strains suspension of disbelief when you realize most of the events of the first two movies take place in like 2 or 3 days. Nobody survives that shit, I don’t care how droopy your breasts are.
its a freakin’ superhero movie. You may as well be asking why Luffy could stretch his arms out so far without breaking bones.
Here’s a real question: How could Superman?
I know
He’s super
but
why Luffy could stretch his arms out so far without breaking bones
Yo ho ho he took a bite of gum gum
plot
Oh there are these things I call Hollywood wounds. All these wounds that are supposed to be survivable in action movie land but would be very real life threats. Stabbings are nasty, specially in the abdomen. You just got signed to play craps with loaded dice and the casino is abdominal cavity infections. You might survive the bleeding, but the fever can still take you out several days later.
There are others like being shot in the leg or the shoulder. Technically survivable, but will destroy your mobility forever. Another one is vertebral spine fractures (which this batman also miraculously survives). If you can walk again after that it would be after years of rehab, and even then you’d still be in pain the whole time until the day you die. Superhero movies are very unrealistic on their handling of human anatomy.
One time, when I was around thirty, my dad said to me “I was stabbed once.” I don’t remember how it came up or the exact words, as thirty was a while ago.
Anyway, according to him, “it was just a little stab.” Apparently, during the story in question, he was on an associate’s boat and the associate became jealous of Dad’s interactions with a woman, instructing him to leave. Dad objected, as the boat in question was not docked. The associate stabbed Dad in the shoulder (just a little), Dad jumped off the boat and swam back to shore and never went to get checked out.
Dad wasn’t generally the type to make up stories, so I believe it happened. I don’t know when, but I think it was well before even my eldest sibling was a sparkle in Dad’s eye and Dad has since passed; as such, I don’t know any details. However, I would have a. Been getting a tetanus shot after getting stabbed and b. DEFINITELY gotten checked out after having a fresh, open wound exposed to untreated water. Even if it was just a little one.
vertebral spine fractures (which this batman also miraculously survives)
Yes but have doctors tried “hanging you from ropes for a while”?
You’re right and I know it’s fiction and not realistic, but since we’re shown he’s suffering while she stabs him, it still bugged me because I imagined him bleeding all the way
Indeed he would’ve. By all accounts it makes no sense.
He’s Batman. Duh.
Its batman. He wears a thick set of plot armor.
Also that movie sucks.
He only survived because she let him live. As a trained assassin, she would have known exactly where to strike if she had wanted the blow to be fatal. She even tells Bane to keep him alive until Gotham is reduced to dust.
The Bat suit might have absorbed some of the impact, but she still drove the blade in deep. Given the location and depth of the wound, he’s fortunate to have only been temporarily incapacitated. If you’ve ever read or heard firsthand accounts from someone who’s been stabbed, you’ll know it’s one of the worst pains imaginable. It’s as if your brain can focus on nothing but that foreign object inside you. Had he not been in peak physical condition, he likely would have passed out from the pain. Instead, we hear only his moans and gasps for air as he kneels over.
Also, maybe Bane is a medical expert.
Probably Nolan’s explanation that he could make it is in her words because she told Bane she wanted him to survive a bit longer.
I don’t even want to imagine the kind of pain you get from being stabbed, but I know I sliced my index finger this year while cutting bread and it was an immense pain (for a short time)
Probably applied morphine, adrenaline, and a clotting bandage off screen. He would of course have all of those on him…because he’s Batman
Edit: Morphine, clotting bandage, adrenaline, in that order though. In case you decide to be Batman.
In movies, wounds that don’t severely damage viral organs are but a scratch.
