• Lupus@feddit.org
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      There’s plenty of “fair use” cases which would allow it.

      §86a STGB allows for the use of “symbols of anti-constitutional organizations” in cases of:

      • art (e.g. the movie “Downfall”)
      • scientific research
      • education
      • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don’t have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

      And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.

      Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.

      Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it’s symbols are forbidden in the same way.

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        §86a STGB allows for the use of “symbols of anti-constitutional organizations” in cases of:

        • art (e.g. the movie “Downfall”)
        • scientific research
        • education
        • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don’t have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

        Which is funny because the video game series Wolfenstein famously had to change all of their in-game imagery. The series is about killing Nazis, but it was banned in Germany until the game devs removed all of the swastikas. Because apparently showing the swastika is banned, even when it’s used explicitly to say “these are the bad guys.”

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          Yes. You can even use a swastika if the intend is clear. For example a figure throwing it into a trashcan.

          I’m not a lawyer, but the word “Heil” ist not forbidden and Also its a picture of something relevant that happened. So in my opinion the Art itself is not illegal. Only the projection onto the building.

          Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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          Why would this backfire? You think germans and their gigafactory subsidies are going to like the nazi salute so much it will increase his popularity?

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            the afd will, they will say it’s okay because musk isn’t a communist (unlike hitler, according to them)

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            Do you think there are no Nazi sympathizers in Germany? Don’t you see AfD on the rise there?

            Most of the people seeing this isn’t going to know the context (i.e. this is a protest). If you strip away the context, this is just a blatant public display of the fascist salute, which many there have wanted to do for so long but couldn’t because they feared the consequences. This could very well embolden them.

            Like, if you just look at the photo, it even straight out says “heil Tesla”, for crying out loud. If this is a protest, they did a piss poor job of it. At least put a clown makeup on Elon’s face, what are they even doing.

            Edit: some people can’t even read it seems.

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        A bigger, louder ‘0’ is still equal to 0, but with more wasted effort to boot. The question is why Berliners still like Naziism enough to leave that building standing is what I wonder when they shine a projector on it for a day and call it anything. I would say they’re doing a lot more to waste effort, energy, optics, and time than being on lemmy.

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    Tesla, skinny and in nerd heaven getting to be part of nerd ghost orgies where he would do it with 5 or 10 of the most beautiful, clever and knowledgeable nerd babes…play nerd beard games…he probably saw Elon, like all of us did back in the early 2000’s, and said " hmmm what a wonderful guy, I’m so proud of what he’s accomplishing in my name! But now, after countless rolls in his grave, he’s just taking it one day at a time. During the last orgy…Tessy! Touch my beautiful round and curvy monopoly figures please!.. Hold on, Elon just did a Nazi salute!..oh my God!.. Tesla, you called? Yeah, did you see what Elon did again? Yeah another Nazi salute! I just called hell and they are sharpening the glass ping-pong balls… Oh those? No, they don’t play ping pong, those go up his butt where they break. It’s a first day thing… He’s due there when he turns 93. Yeah we’re going with a pretzel. Its funny as heck, that’s why!