• ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca
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      Did you do anything to stop the violent ego maniac in the White House? No? Then you’ve cooperated with him.

    • Stamets@lemmy.world
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      Correct. If you didn’t vote then you are spineless, a coward and lack any morals. You saw fascism coming and ignored what everyone said and then decided that it wasn’t worth the bare minimum effort of voting.

      If you did not cast a ballot and you were eligible to do so then the things I want to say to you would get me banned from lemmy and probably arrested.

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        K. That doesn’t explain your nonsense about “If you didn’t vote then you voted”.

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            It’s not my reading comprehension that’s at issue here, it’s your abilities with basic logic.

      • thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev
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        I mean my vote hasn’t mattered in the last 2 elections. My state hasnt flipped blue since Obama. There’s a lot of situations where voting is a waste of time. Making that not be true is what’s going to increase voter turnout, not trying to shame them for something they’re not responsible for

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          And if everyone in your state who thought that actually decided to vote then it might have actually made an impact.

          See previous message.

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        Correct. If you didn’t vote then you are spineless, a coward and lack any morals.

        Not correct, if you didn’t vote you didn’t vote period.

        People saying and persuading others to vote for murderers with blood on their hands are much bigger spineless coward with no morals.

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          Inaction is still a choice, so not voting means you’re ok with this. Voting or not voting, you still made your choice in November and here we are.

          People saying and persuading others to vote for murderers with blood on their hands are much bigger spineless coward with no morals.

          That’s the most bullshit argument to justify your shitty choices and is textbook DARVO. Not voting for the lesser murderer means we get an even bigger one who will actively increase the suffering, and it’s hilarious to me how you’re trying to pretend that voting to prevent more genocide is cowardly. But cowards love to pretend they’re not cowards and blame others when they don’t have the stones to make hard decisions. And lol, using morality to justify letting trump genocide people home and abroad shows you have none.

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            Inaction is still a choice, so not voting means you’re ok with this. Voting or not voting, you still made your choice in November and here we are.

            The choice not to support a rigged as fuck system that needs to go for the sake of humanity. You are not supposed to vote for any murderer of any scale under any circumstances. When the choice is between two murderers it’s time for plan B

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          You sound like one of the idiots my grandfather tried to warn in Germany in the 1920s before he got the fuck out and came to America on forged papers on a Japanese fishing boat

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          Nope. It is dead correct. If you were eligible to vote and you did not vote then you should feel horrible. You should feel attacked. You should feel like everyone hates you. They do. You decided that fascism wasn’t important enough to vote against. You decided to go “Well both sides suck” when one side was actively planning genocide and destruction of the United States.

          You do not get to have a say. Why? Because you didn’t vote. You decided not to use your voice so guess what? You don’t get to have one here.

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            You can try to blame people who didn’t vote the red and blue party as much as you want but they are not going to feel horrible because they didn’t support any murderer. You seem to be projecting a lot of resentment perhaps deep down you don’t feel happy about your choice?

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              See previous comment.

              You don’t vote? You don’t get to have a say in the conversation. You have willingly silenced yourself for the next 4 years. So sad for you.

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      Not engaging is also a choice, a very shit one in this case. You either contributed -1, 0, or +1 to a fascist takeover, sure 0 might be better than +1 but taking a neutral stance against such a dogshit prospect really puts the chair in armchair revolutionary, and doesn’t make you much better than the cheeto worshippers.

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        Not voting at minimum makes you more dumb than MAGA… At least they understand voting can bring changes.

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          We need systems where we vote for policies rather than parties.

          Absolutely nothing will be fixed until we do.

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          Imagine saying that with a straight face with one side has just declared they want to very actively partake in the genocide and just do the job themselves.

          This is like saying giving a murderer a knife is the same as going in with a machine gun yourself.

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            This is like saying giving a murderer a knife is the same as going in with a machine gun yourself.

            I know you’re trying to be profound here, but in this case, it is exactly the same. Genocide Joe very reliably delivered WMD’s to Israel during his term in full knowledge that it was a vastly unpopular decision, up until his last day. The news reported something like 80 people killed in the days between the signing of the ceasefire and Biden leaving office.

            Whether it’s the US or Israel doing the squatting “settling” in Gaza, the results are the same. Biden and Trump diverge in minor ways, but unfortunately Israel doesn’t appear to be one of them.

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              Thank you for conclusively proving you have literally no idea what you’re talking about. You are what is wrong with America. You are not educated.

              “Genocide Joe” wasn’t able to stop sending bombs. When Trump stopped sending military aid to Ukraine he was impeached. Why? Because it is illegal to impede a congressional approval. It was congress that approved the weapons to Israel. Biden had literally no choice. The most he could do, which he did, was stop the bombs from being sent for longer and longer periods. Put them in areas where they had to be inspected because it was the only thing he could do. Slow it down.

              And here you are screaming that he should have stopped sending anything, concretely proving that you have fallen for every scrap of propaganda.

              Congratulations. You’re a useful idiot.

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                I am.

                Biden’s presidency was so similar to the prior one that millions of workers who’d voted previously didn’t even see the point in going to the polls.

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                  People like you, are why I moved away.

                  Sure you could just be another Russian troll.

                  But I knew way too many fucking idiots like you in real life too years ago as to know there’s a good chance that you’re not a troll.

                  The only consolidation I have is that dumbasses like you will suffer along with the rest, even if not as much as you deserve compared to those who knew better.