I prefer “list” view over grid view. Switching to grid view shows six videos before the break, but significantly less information about the video.
Youtube added shorts to subscription, and i added Youtube-shorts block to firefox.
Nice one
Same. They can try as much as they want to make it happen, but if people don’t want it, people don’t want it no matter how much they force them.
Fuck YouTube shorts. It’s infuriating that YouTube doesn’t provide us an option to remove all traces of that fuckin cancer from the platform.
My biggest issue is so many of the people I sub that have shorts, the shorts are their normal videos but only a small clip of it. I dont want that, Im already watching the videos!
Agreed. Some of the YouTubers I watch have said that YouTube is forcing them to make shorts because their videos won’t be shown to people if they don’t. A couple are even doing a bit of malicious compliance and taking the piss out of YouTube Shorts because they hate it as much as we do.
If we wanted short clips, we’d be on TikTok damnit!
If we wanted short clips, we’d be on TikTok damnit!
Exactly. YouTube doesn’t want to lose out on that revenue/time spent on other platforms…
Press the X? Gotcha! I’ll remove shorts for 30 days or until you come back without cookies in 10 minutes.
I don’t mind YouTube shorts usually, although my TikTok feed is far better. But last week, my YouTube app started opening to the shorts tab. Infuriating. I’ll watch a short if it piques my interest, but that’s not what I’m going to YouTube for.
uBlock Origin makes this easy:
Instructions Screenshot 1. Find a Shorts section on the page 
2. Select the element picker in uBlock Origin 
3. Select the Shorts section 
4. Click “Create” 
5. Enjoy 
I would recommend clicking Preview before Create. You know what will be removed before creating a rule is better.
You can also use the “zap” feature. Just use the lightning bolt icon to the left of the eyedropper and it’ll skip step 4. I also found this to work better because selecting shorts ended up always selecting the entire videos section as well.
This is just temporary, if you refresh the page it will show section again.
It was not temporary for me. I had to go into my settings and delete my changes to get it working again.
This is defined as temporary in uBlock documentation.
Reloading the web page will cause all removed elements to return.
Your link talks about the element zapper, the icon that looks like a lightning. The instructions above talk about the element picker, the icon that looks like an eye dropper.
You can also use the “zap” feature. Just use the lightning bolt icon to the left of the eyedropper and it’ll skip step 4. I also found this to work better because selecting shorts ended up always selecting the entire videos section as well.
There are pre-made filterlists that deal with annoyances like this (which tend to end up more reliable as tools that randomize/minify CSS classes get widely adopted), not just on YT but the wider web as a whole. I’ve written about how to set them up here: https://blahaj.zone/@ShittyKopper/pages/usable-web if you want to take a look at it
This is a great resource, thank you very much!
OMG thank you ☺️
Some more filters for blocking Shorts from YT can be found here.
I can’t thank you enough.
God, Youtube has gone to shit lately.
Lately in this context, meaning about the last 15 or so years.
They added sort from oldest back! wooooooo. One step forward after being launched backwards into a pile of shit.
They only removed it because it interfered with a new feature they added to the mobile app. If they removed it for monetary reasons (like what they did with dislikes), they wouldn’t have brought it back
I don’t give a cunt’s dick why they removed it in the first place, why are you defending anything about it
I’m not defending anything. I think you misunderstood my comment
Removed by mod
You can use the regular Youtube interface for shorts, I do it everytime I open one:
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go to a short video
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replace the
/shorts/part of the URL by/v/ -
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Profit
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It’s all intentional. They know that overall it increases engagement and that’s all they care about.
Even Instagram and Tiktok let people fast forward videos. YouTube needs to get their shit together.
The zombie clicker demographic is their best customer/product
I hate this format of content so much. An automatically reloading, never ending stream of snippets that are hardly informative even if they try. Fucking looks like they are trying to hypnotize us.
Oh wait, they absolutely are. Stop thinking about not being able to afford a living even though you bust your ass of everyday. Stop worrying about the climate. Get a new iphone and obediently watch citizen.
Trying to hop on that ADHD train.
This is not a defense of TikTok style short form content. It’s just that from time to time, I do enjoy the shorter style videos. Like when I have 5 minutes to kill, watch a few short videos and be on my way.
What I really don’t like is that if you choose the app and the last thing you watched was a short, it opens right back up to to Shorts. Very annoying.
When I have 5 minutes to kill I open Wikipedia and read the article of the day.
Reading is better for your brain and attention span, and on top of that you learn something new.
I should do this more often. Thanks for the suggestion!
Yeah I occasionally use Instagram and look at reels. Sometimes it’s fun to catch the one snippet from a comedy sketch instead of watching the whole thing.
That said, I wouldn’t miss anything if I deleted it tomorrow.
Plus they commit the biggest sin possible in video…VERTICAL VIDEO. I hate this garbage trend of everything being designed for phones. Vertical videos suck. They are terrible to watch on desktop. You can rotate your phone sideways, you can’t rotate your TV, laptop, monitor, projector, etc. vertical (at least not most of the time).
Honestly this is better than it was - prior to this change the shorts were just mixed in with the regular videos … now at least you can scroll past them and see only videos.
Shorts are cancer yes?
Anyone get an update on for their TV app this week?
Went from having reasonably-sized thumbnails, to these over-sized ones where only like 2.5 of them fit horizontally and less than 1.5 of them fit vertically. They are obnoxiously huge which means to see what videos are in your feed you have to do a ton of needless scrolling.
Just a week ago, it wasn’t like this - I think you could see 4 horizontally and 3 vertically before which is perfect for a living room experience.
My favorite part is that there is no way to make any adjustments. If you are going to change something like this, at least let me change it back. WTF?
You should use SmartTube Next. It’s like ReVanced but for TV.
We alkready pay for Premium, so what would be the benefit for us? And while we use YT on all our devices, obviously, we use YT a whole hell of a lot in the livingroom TV on my Shield TV.
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Can’t do that for Samsung and LG TVs.
My worst tech mistake was buying a Samsung TV.
It’s great TV tech, I’m just underwhelmed by Tizen and its app ecosystem - doesn’t have nearly enough options, some non-major apps are barebones compared to their Android counterparts, sees less support.
My only real alternative for good quality TV with Android was Sony, but they had dropped the ball at the time concerning Variable Refresh Rate support, and prices weren’t great either, so I decided against.
I can still use Android apps through a cable tv box that has them, but most of the time it isn’t worth the bother for me - easier to just switch on the TV and use its native system.
It is ridiculous! I’m sure it’ll do little good but I sent some feedback at https://www.youtube.com/tv/feedback
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/tv/feedback
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
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Yes and that is so fucking annoying. Whag a degen ui designers on yt
Boy am I glad I have the extension that makes shorts invisble
May I ask which extension you are running?
Thanks. I find the Enhancer for YT a bit over kill.
Have you tried pockettube? it allows yyou to create categories so you can bunch your channels together. It’s pretty cool.
I wish they would give us a user setting to completely hide shorts from ever showing. I have never watched a short and I will never watch a short. It’s just not the type of content for me. If I wanted TikTok style videos, I would download TikTok. It’s crazy how much stuff YouTube tries to cram down your throat even as a premium subscriber.
Edit: also just a great example of companies jumping on a bandwagon to make a quick buck. YouTube is a well established video hosting and streaming service, they didn’t need to spend how every many millions of dollars adding shorts (not that they would have bothered spending that money on the user/creator experiences anyways)
You can yeet with plugin
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-shorts-block/
Ooh this will be a nice add on for desktop, Ty Ty
I agree with you so much. The only time I ever click on shorts are accidents. I hate them. I don’t use instagram, tiktok, anything like that. I don’t want to see shorts. They are horribly crammed and well, way too short. Leave me alone and stop autoplaying on my tv.
I highly suggest using Enhancer for YouTube, it allows you to hide shorts and also convert them to normal video player so you can seek them like any other YouTube video.
There’s also multitude of different customisation options, you can hide related videos, change default comment order, disable comments altogether, expand the description ;)
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/enhancer-for-youtube/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhancer-for-youtube/ponfpcnoihfmfllpaingbgckeeldkhle https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/enhancer-for-youtube™/dlgfaleeejmphhnemjgiaekdbonkagkd
You just put me on sir. I have been using piped instead because of all the clutter yt was putting in.
I wish this worked on the mobile browser
There’s always ReVanced, at least on Android ;)
https://github.com/revanced/revanced-manager/releases/latest
You can hide segments like that with ublock, fwiw. It’s been really useful to me for these kinds of changes every single website seems to be pushing these days.
I dont know where I have it from (I think somone on reddit posted it), but I use this in the uBlock Origin Filter since 8 month and it removes all my shorts from the subscription:
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I do not trust having to many FF Extensions installed from some rando from the Internet, so I like this solution better.
I don’t mind shorts so much but Enhancer for Youtube has the ability to convert shorts to regular videos or hide them.
But the Videos are still only 1 Minute long. I find them a disgrace for my attention span. Before shorts/tiktok people were already arguing how deep a video of 10 Minute really can be and might be giving only a shallow idea of a topic. Going even further down to 1 Minute per topic is too much (less) for me. I prefer videos 20 Minutes+. Mostly 45-60 Minutes hit a decent spot for me to feel like I learned something about a topic. A couple of days ago I watched a 2-parts video of 6h and 5h (over several days) about the Russo-Japanese war. And even that was skimming over a lot of topics (obviously) but afterwards I felt like I understood something. I dont know how a 1 Minute short can transport anything other than just “a feeling of knowledge” - at this point it is basically just entertainment. I already felt 10 Minutes was snack-infotainment short. 1 Minute clips leave me behind like eating candy for dinner: Very unsatisfied. And maybe that is the reason people then click the next tiktok/short, because they actually do not feel satisfied by such a short clip and have the feeling for wanting more. And they satisfy this “more” by switching to another 1-Minute video. Again getting the feeling of more, yet getting less in the end of the day.
Any chance you can drop a link to 11 hours on the Russo-Japanese war? Didn’t even know that was a thing
Sure. Here you go: Part 1, Part2, (there even is a third part) - I strongly advice to watch it on 1.5x, as the speaker is very slow
I liked the very detailed day-by-day turns in the first part as well as the epic sea-fights in the second part. Also the small biography-slides with detailed vitaes of military personal gave a good idea in what time people lived and where they were going. Combined with an endless stream of original photos and drawings of the fights, it was a very dense documentation and gave a good image about war, russia, japan and the though-process of early 20th century military tactics.
Not even that comical story about the misadventures of the Russian Navy? Oh man, you’re really missing out!
Here are a couple of videos about it:
- <10-minute video by BlueJay (presented in a casual/funny/meme-y way)
- >40-minute video by Drachinifel (presented in a serious documentary kind of way)
If you’ve got 50 minutes to spare, it’s worth watching both.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=yzGqp3R4Mx4
https://piped.video/watch?v=9Mdi_Fh9_Ag
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
Hey bot, you missed the fact that there were two videos linked in that comment.
True but also to be fair I have attention issues and can’t really sit too long for a whole video but they’re good for a lot of little critical role clips!
Then again I’m on like Tiktok all the time so I’m used to it :3
I think (if it is not a disorder) attention span can be trained. It takes discipline and a true interest into a topic other than just a vague excitement. If you are able to state what topics you are interested in for yourself, you might be able to concentrate on 10-30 Minutes of the same topic. People who are really into The Kardashians are able to watch a whole 50 Minute episode of them. So it is not the problem of concentration for them, it is more that they need something put in front of them for that they can feel a passion or enthusiasm they deeply care about - even it is just The Kardashians. Here is the thing: People have no problem browsing 2h+ of tiktok, but can not concentrate on 10x 20min video? I think if you have a real interest in something you can get through longer videos. Do you look for thing you really care about or do you actively looking for a distraction when you browse tiktok? It is not a bad thing to use it that way. After a long day of work, it can relax your brain browsing real shallow, short clips. But daily, in high doses… then I think it is maybe another reason people do it (escapism, etc.)
path[d^=“M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33”]
Some of those rules are OK, but the
pathrules will be pretty flaky since they’re relying on a particular shape (like an icon or something) being present on the page.I dont know where I have it from
Maybe from here: https://letsblock.it/filters/youtube-shorts
I really think i got it from a Reddit comment, but it is good to know the source of it. Thank you.
Also DeArrow extension is really good for removing the clickbait thumbnails and replaces them with a simple still from the video itself. It also removes Emojis and special characters from the titles.
Other essential extensions for YouTube for me are (1) sponsorblock and (2) enhancer for YouTube.
I will also recommend blocktube extension.
I found youtube in particular to use very generic functionq that are used in other places so blocking something small ends up blocking other things, iirc from the long time ago that I wasn’t using piped, blocking youtube premium prompt broke comments or something along those lines
The new slider replacement.
Anyone using Arc who needs a boost to block all YouTube bloat, let me know. I created one for myself but haven’t submitted it to the gallery. It hides shorts, suggested search results and some other crap.
Worse: When you watch a short that appeared in your search results, all related videos are general shorts and NOT more search results. It’s too distracting, and for a person with ADHD such as myself, it kills my productivity. 🤬
Well anyway yt search result shows 3-5 relevant results then some shitty sexually suggestive videos with “People also watch this” whuch have zero relation with what I search and further scrolling shows the first 3-5 results again then loop forever
This is the experience on mobile idk web tho
I just hate how much functionality the Shorts player loses compared to the regular Youtube player. They seriously made their product worse to imitate a competitor? Who asked for this?
I think the UX team is banking on user psychology. Majority of users don’t want functionality, they want familiarity. They should feel like they are watching Tiktok.
We should remember that we power users are a minority in social media.
The shareholders.
I swear that these board of director types are some of the most dense and out of touch people on the planet. It’s crazy how we reward them for their stupidity in exchange for their unbridled greed.
And funnily, the shorts player on mobile has some of those features.
Checkout the Youtube-shorts-block extension which gives shorts the same UI as normal youtube videos.
Basically what the extension does is replace the parts in the URL youtube.com/shorts/“video-id” to youtube.com/watch?v=“video-id”
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/shorts/
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
Who asked for this?
Either Susan Wojcicki (ex-YT CEO), Neal Mohan (current YT-CEO) or Sundar Pichai (Google CEO)
I’m afraid it boils down to the significant amount of users, who asked or “asked” for this. Shorts is crazy popular.
If you use Ublock you can use this filter to clean Shorts from Youtube (FTR you only need 2 lines near the bottom that have the word ‘short’ in them, but Lemmy formatting is balls so it’s all or nothing):
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