• OctopusKurwa @lemm.ee
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      Centrists are people who think being on the fence about every issue is a shortcut to being intelligent.

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        But the centrist character on TV said a line that made the other characters shut up! He has to be smart!

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        Or admitting they’re too dumb to make an informed decision. I’m proudly in that camp on several issues. Not going to spout rhetoric I don’t understand.

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          Centralism doesn’t exist in Europe either. You’ve got the left wing party’s the right wing party’s the ultra nationalist right-wing party’s - if you’re lucky the right-wing party and the ultra national is right-wing party a different parties, sometimes they’re not though.

          On that scale centre is right wing. We need some actual communists to balance the political seesaw.

          The extremists pretty much all over the world have shifted the conversation so far to the right that there’s no room for a centralist party anymore because if they existed they would be opposed to pretty much everything right-wing party’s would be doing, and then they may as well just be the left-wing party.

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            That is complete bs, my country - Austria - has a center-left and a center-right party and that’s exactly what they are. And we do have an actual communist party, btw.

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              That’s my point, we don’t.

              Look at Turkey, you’ve either got a borderline dictatorship, or you’ve got a party that want a democracy, there isn’t someone in the middle going oh well we should have the best of both worlds.

              The right wing have basically pushed their agenda so much that there’s no room for anyone in the middle anymore they’ve stretched the political spectrum so why the middle essentially doesn’t exist. There’s no shades of grey anymore.

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                If your first argument is Turkey…

                That’s like saying the US public transport available by pointing out that Manhattan exists.

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                  How about this… centrist, left, right… all subjective, even more-so regionally.

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                    Where do I disagree with that?

                    There’s centrism in Europe and in most cases it will be quite left compared to USA

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          Most people commenting in political threads don’t know anything about anything.

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          They remember a subreddit called “Enlightened Centrism” and don’t get the joke.

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      Same applies when you hear an American person say they’re a social-liberal but fiscal-conservative. They think it makes them sound like an enlightened centrist, but as soon as I hear it I think “oh, this person’s a Trumper who doesn’t have the balls to just say it.”

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        Fiscal conservatives quietly became Republicans, but not “conservatives”. There’s a weird thing going on with that here… Your not wrong, though. They have been greedy cowards of they took this stance in the last few decades.

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          Fiscally conservative should mean voting for Democrats because Republicans are fucking awful with money.

          But the Republicans still hold onto this myth that they’re somehow more financially responsible.

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            We need a reverse version of that “always has been” meme for “never were”

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      No one exists with views like this. I’ve done my research. I know! LOL

      When faced with a different view point they can’t fathom it’s easier to say it is not possible than to have a rational discussion. It’s easier to hate on people than to try to understand them. I find both sides to be extremely lazy in their thinking.

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      I’d absolutely vote for GOP 15 years ago depending on who is running. Today not so much.

      If the GOP ever puts forward another Romney I think you’ll find that plenty of centrists exist.

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      Remember that when the media starts flapping about centrists and swing voters. they dont actually exist.

      That’s about the worst sentence I have seen on lemmy so far.

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          Swing voters most assuredly exist and if you think they don’t you’re ignorant about the US political process

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          1. Not talking about grammar and you know it.
          2. It’s wrong because it’s simply too stupid to assume a whole caucus of voters don’t exist because you haven’t been outside US
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      Most people who label themselves leftists think it is socialism when the government does things and thus consider themselves socialists.

      It’s not a new thing that people support political ideologies, or identifying with certain ideologies, because they’re dumb.