A Luther Burbank High School freshman was surprised to read his full name included on a biology final. Not only that, but he was being ridiculed. “In high school, there are individuals who are cross-eyed like (the name of a fellow student) and (the name of the student previously mentioned), which is a dominant trait. We call those individuals ‘weirdoes’. So, if you crossed two weirdoes (the two students named again), that are heterozygous for being cross-eyed, what is the offspring that would result?” Many students in the class were targeted by first and last name on the exam. Teacher Alex Nguyen chose to describe these students by their ethnicities and physical features, and then paired them up, posing questions about what traits a theoretical child of these two students would have. On one question, the teacher wrote a disclaimer, saying “in no way do I promote students being sexually active,” but the student’s parents and other teachers at the school said that the implication of any sexual relationship between students is inappropriate.

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    I mean, if we wanted our best and brightest (and most compassionate) to teach, we would pay them the best salary they could get with their degrees.

    Note to good teachers out there (I’m a teacher too): I’m not saying there aren’t any! I’m just saying that those doing the hiring can’t afford to be terribly picky.

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    “For some reason, the African American culture has influenced most of the student body. How? In African Americans, they have a gene for the pimp walk, which is dominant. What is the result if you cross (student name) homozygous dominant Latina with a homozygous recessive Hmong like (student name)?”

    The question goes on to refer to the dominant trait as walking with a limp and the recessive trait as normal.

    The teacher also claimed falling asleep in class was dominant.

    And all the examples seem to be the same basic question, just different insults shoehorned in.

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      Sounds like they were trying to test students on how dominant/recessive genes work, but trying to make jokes so it’d feel relatable. But the jokes are just not funny at all. You have to be REAL close to someone for that to be a joke instead of an insult.

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        To me it sounds like none of us have context, and although inappropriate I suspect it’s far less devastating to the kids being tested than it would be to outside observers imagining themselves in the kids shoes.

        My senior year had a teacher who slipped in a bunch of insider knowledge “material” into their exams to see who was paying attention/wasn’t there that day (“this ocean current should not be confused with this similarly named walk that we used to do when I was in school, if you see it spelled this incorrect way it’s the walk and not the current” (only without the latter qualifier), if any of you have ever taken this class, and didn’t miss lecture that day, you’ll know exactly which high school I went to and who’s class I’m talking about, hit me up!)

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      Wouldn’t it be wierdos, not wierdoes? My autocorrect seems to think so.

      Also in the UK, where I’m from, we have standardised testing, when i was a kid the tests were all made by exam boards like AQA, OCR and EdExcel. I believe they still are.

      Despite the flaws that come with that it was better than allowing an individual to come up with the test as it removed personal bias and, obviously, derogatory remarks about students in the class.

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      I suspect there’s nuance or personal nicknames being lost from context here. I strongly doubt a teacher (unless they want to be fired) calls students out like this without prior development of the material.

      But I’m sure my take is far too rational for the knee jerk wing of my peers.

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        I don’t think there’s anything close to room for nuance here. No matter how “friendly” you think you are with your students and how much you think they like you, this is not acceptable behavior from a high school teacher.

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        Teachers can just be cruel sometimes. Some of my worst bullys in school were teachers. One of my teachers meowed like a cat at my friend in front of the whole class to mock my friend for him meowing.

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    Goldberg said that due to the test being pulled, “there were challenges with the grading process,” which the district staff is working to correct. “We will evaluate the exams of the students who received the test and our Academic Department will contact students whose final grade has been impacted.” The Allens have not yet heard from administrators about their son’s test.

    Throw out the test for all students. This isn’t difficult.

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    This guy needs a better outlet for his frustrations. I don’t doubt that teaching high schoolers is a special form of torture (having been a high schooler once upon a time) but test questions are not the place to vent.

    I want to believe that these were questions he wrote out in a drunken stupor one night and then printed off the wrong file though doubling down on it with the projector kinda kills that idea. Dude maybe shouldn’t have been a teacher but it took him about a decade too long to figure it out.

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      He also needs to not be a racist, ablist piece of shit. This goes way beyond venting, this dude believes in ethnic cleansing and shit. I’m surprised there were no phrenology-related questions.

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          My least favorite part of abrahamic religions is the concept of Eden. The idea that we were once perfect, and then we fucked it up. It’s a myth that’s so perverted and destructive and plainly opposite of the truth.

          We’re not angels falling from heaven.

          We’re monkeys building society out of nothing but mud.

          It’s pretty astounding, actually. Certainly things aren’t perfect and never will be. But look for the helpers. The people who work to make the world better. Never believe anyone who tells you that everything is getting worse.

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            Like the kid in the story, who literally got made fun of by the teacher, was like “I think he need to write an apology to the whole school, but he shouldn’t get fired.” He’s a good person. And the dad said he thought the teacher should go through racial sensitivity training but not lose his job. Idk if I agree with them, but at least they are thinking with compassion and not rage.

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            The Eden thing is necessary for the concept of original sin. People are bad and should feel bad, and only the church can save you. Donations, please!

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    "In some roles, there are some individuals who are best known as ‘dumbfucks’, like (teachers name) and (teachers mother) for not swallowing (teachers name). We can also call these individuals by the proper scientific term, ‘unfortunately alive’. In this totally-hypothetical situation, how long would it take (teachers name) to realize the ever-reducing brake pressure of their pedal, and inevitably, that their brake lines have been cut? Assuming their typical trip home, at what speed would they be traveling when they came to this realization? Lastly, what would be the most likely end result of these series of events, taking into account the afternoon rush hour traffic at [question part two] speeds, in their poor-condition 1991 Toyota Tercel?

    Bonus credit (10 points): Keeping in mind that (teachers name) is a horrible person, estimate how many individuals might attend their funeral, and how many would be present just to confirm the body?"

    Send that shit right back, with a warning.

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    Seems like this teacher has some mental health issues. Hope they get help and the students get a reexam.

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    I think another problem in schools is that classrooms are so isolated, which means that teachers are isolated from each other, too. The little world of a classroom can have a great culture and atmosphere, but it can also be pretty fucked up in a multitude of ways when one adult is overseeing 15-25 kids every day for a year. Honestly, it even gets kind of lonely as a teacher when you have so little meaningful time spent with peers.

    A good principal steps into each classroom regularly, but more co-teaching and interdisciplinary studies would both be better for students as well as an improvement to teacher culture.

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      15-25 kids…

      Like, per period? Cause that numbers low for public schooling

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        15 is low, but 18 - 24 per period is normal in my district. The point still stands, though, even if it’s a California classroom.

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          The way you wrote it makes it seem like you meant in total, not per period was my point. The total number is likely closer to 100 a school year which is vastly different to 15 total.

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              15*6=90 so I was fairly conservative on my estimate… Which further proves my point that the difference between 30 students total is vastly different than 180 total if we wanted to hit the other end of that average

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            You’re right, I was unclear about that, but it doesn’t really matter to my point. An isolated group of 15-25 kids and a teacher is the typical organization of a school, and this isolation has it’s benefits but can lead to problems.

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    Another question targeted two students who got in trouble for sleeping in class, again asking students to speculate about what would happen if these students were to have children.

    “Here at the wonderful school of LBHS, we have certain students who love to sleep in class. I even see students fall asleep during exams! Can you believe that?! I don’t like it when students sleep in class… it’s rude! So, WAKE THE #$%K UP! Well, through much study, I have concluded that the gene for falling asleep is dominant. Not only that some students sleep, they snore in class. This too is a dominant trait. What are the possible offspring if you cross a homozygous sleeping, heterozygous snoring student (student name) with a homozygous attentive, non-snoring (student name) student?”

    “(When I saw that) I was like, so it’s not like you’re joking about it. You’re being serious about it, because that’s what they really do,” the Allens’ son said. “That’s how I knew he was not playing around.”

    OK so this wasn’t OK, but I get it. On one hand, the majority of the time, I’m a student that appreciates their teachers. I pay attention, I ask questions if I need to, and I don’t interrupt. The people that do have always pissed me off. Especially when I was in college, and I would have loved to see a teacher lay into these types of students who only ever frustrate and distract while everyone else is trying to learn. That being said, I’ve also had bad teachers. In 4th grade, I had a teacher that was a misandrist. She gave favorable treatment and grades to the girls in the class, and would be mean to the boys. It sucked, and every boy complained about her, but nothing was ever done. Thankfully, I only ever had her for that one year, but she did make it miserable.

    All that being said, I’m still planning to run for office someday, and one of my platforms will be to double all teachers pay.