US Secret Service plans to surround podium with ballistic glass after former president survived assassination attempt
  • Shawdow194@fedia.io
    1941·
    3 months ago

    Why not just have more “good” guys with guns?? Isnt that the cure to violent gun crimes they’ve been preaching?

    • Jax@sh.itjust.works
      14·
      3 months ago

      Idk why he doesn’t simply arm himself. All it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, right? I thought Trump was supposed to be the God-Emperor of Mankind, is he not a good guy?

            • luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
              4·
              3 months ago

              You know what’s worse than communication with pictograms / hieroglyphs? Using idioms specific to that language. “World Astronaut Gun Astronaut Stars” doesn’t make any sense no matter how you twist it, unless you know that it references the “Always has been” meme template. For any hypothetical future historian, deciphering it would be frustrating as hell.

              I love it.

      • BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        3 months ago

        "They always look for guns, trump thought. Perhaps I should expose my gross protuberance to shock them. Or get a gun, he thought, a really big gun, with tears in its eyes”

  • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
    58·
    3 months ago

    He could still be shot from behind. To be safe he should have bulletproof glass on all sides. Also above and below, to account for drones and communist molemen. And make sure it’s airtight, in case someone throws toxic gas at him.

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      44·
      3 months ago

      The cultural marxists could still use bombs though. Best to switch out that bulletproof glass on all sides with concrete on all sides. Maybe a fence around it all too just to keep the terrorist leftists out. Maybe something like this?

    • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
      3·
      3 months ago

      We definitely need to put a webcam into his cell at ADX Florence. Hell, you could sell access and probably add a nice chunk of change to the Treasury.

  • emmy67@lemmy.world
    541·
    3 months ago

    Isn’t bulletproof glass woke? Should just have more guns there. Then everyone would be too afraid to shoot him

  • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
    552·
    3 months ago

    I don’t exactly blame him. That assassination attempt was a massive failure on the organization that should be fail proof.

    At the same time, I wonder if this will just be a way to remind people about it. Nobody is talking about it anymore and it was a huge deal for his campaign.

    I thought it was interesting that he said he was going to return to the same location in October for a rally. That is a great strategy. So far that is the only thing his campaign has going for it, so might as well lean into it (the strategy…).

    • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
      79·
      3 months ago

      I assume that it is no longer being reported on because Trump’s campaign planners could’nt even find halfway credible evidence that the assassin was not a conservative. This can hardly be explained in any other way than that Trump is not very popular with his own violent supporters.

      • forrcaho@lemmy.world
        43·
        3 months ago

        I wouldn’t say “not very popular” … it’s more like there’s a non-zero chance that some of his violent, unhinged followers will, upon realizing he’s a fraud and they’ve been duped all this time, turn their violence towards him. It only takes one.

        • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
          15·
          3 months ago

          That is of course quite possible. That’s just the way it is when you don’t build on a political program, but on hatred and idiocy instead.

          • Optional@lemmy.world
            8·
            3 months ago

            This video explained it very well for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g

            TL;DW: The Alt-Right online presence fails in real life; at some point, frothing rageaholic incels pop a gasket and head on out into the world. Mostly, as cowards, they attack innocent civilians, but if one was particularly focused on Saint McRapey they might go that way too.

            • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              3 months ago

              The video sums it up pretty well. In my opinion, it’s all the sadder that all this even works internationally. I’m from Germany and we’re dealing with the same problem here, with the same right-wing radical rhetoric on social media and all the bogus arguments that go with it: People who think they are entitled to more because of their nationality (or whatever) than they have achieved on their own in their lives. I’m all the more ashamed because, unlike the USA, we have a reasonably functioning social system (so that can’t be an excuse). Just because of that, it should be much more difficult to recruit people for fascist ideas here, but the sad assholes who want to rule the lives of others because it doesn’t conform to their narrow-minded ideas seem all the more prevalent here. It’s enough to make you cry.

              • Optional@lemmy.world
                3·
                3 months ago

                It’s almost like the impetus for these far-right movements is somehow multi-national or something. ;)

                • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  3·
                  3 months ago

                  Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don’t care about the “couleur” of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that’s why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia.

              • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
                3·
                3 months ago

                Also you’d think people in Germany would remember that time they let a fascist run things and he got tens of millions of people killed killed and the country invaded, occupied, and broken apart.

    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
      3·
      3 months ago

      That assassination attempt was a massive failure on the organization that should be fail proof.

      Well, apparently he didn’t have time to properly zero his sights or practice with his weapon.

      What?

      • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Not sure what you’re getting at, but it was an undeniable massive failure of the secret service. He never should have gotten as close as he did with a gun.

        • SSTF@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 months ago

          Something I have encountered with protective situations, and which I haven’t seen addressed anywhere regarding Trump is why the sightline to the buildings weren’t simply blocked.

          It is impossible to secure every single location, but if there is a cluster of buildings, you park a semi-truck and trailer in the line of sight (or put up a green fence, or whatever) and then you have the much easier job of securing your blocking.

          But I guess that’s a really in the weeds.

          • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            3 months ago

            I wonder if we’ll ever get answered to this. It seemed like such a basic failure that it should never have happened. I’m surprised the house didn’t immediately start hearings and pressing people for answers. Makes me think they would end up finding themselves to blame or something.

            • SSTF@lemmy.world
              6·
              3 months ago

              There was a House hearing, and the USSS director resigned.

              There were no good answers provided in the hearing. Complacency and sloppiness of procedure seem to be the baseline answer, but pinpointing names of who exactly on the ground failed is difficult for the public.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
        1·
        3 months ago

        For someone who previously couldn’t hit the backstop at a range, he came surprisingly close.

        Yeah, yeah, I know, NY Post, but they broke this one:

        https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/would-be-trump-assassin-tried-to-join-high-school-shooting-club-was-rejected-for-being-comically-bad-shot/

        "The team at Bethel Park shoots Anschutz single-shot rifles with peep sights and .22-caliber ammunition, Jameson Murphy and another former student explained.

        The shooting range at the school is 50 feet long by 21 feet wide, with seven ranges.

        Crooks once fired from the seventh lane — the closest to the right wall — and hit the left wall, completely missing every target on the back wall. He missed his target by close to 20 feet, Murphy recalled.

        “He tried out … and was such a comically bad shot, he was unable to make the team and left after the first day,” Murphy said."

        • frezik@midwest.social
          2·
          3 months ago

          I’m suspicious about how it’s even possible to be that bad of a shot. The muzzle would have to be pointed way to the side, in which case the range safety officer should have tore him a new asshole.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      3 months ago

      I imagine the fact that he constantly forced the secret service to pay over the odds to stay at properties he owns probably didn’t encourage them to assign their best and brightest to protect him.

  • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
    47·
    3 months ago

    Impossible to be unsafe around so many good guys with guns. Maybe the glass helps him see them better to know how safe he is.

  • barsquid@lemmy.world
    432·
    3 months ago

    Why? Is there some sort of problem with gunfire in America? I wonder why that might be.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    39·
    3 months ago

    The hilarious part is how security could screen for guns if his 2020 campaign hadn’t run up debts with unpaid bills at indoor venues. Having to do outdoor events was an unforced error.