• Gerudo@lemm.ee
    71·
    2 months ago

    Well that shows how much profits weren’t going into worker pockets.

  • zephorah@lemm.ee
    45·
    2 months ago

    If health care had internal solidarity, to do this type of thing, there probably wouldn’t be a shortage of workers willing to do direct patient care.

    Good for these guys. The reality is that when you stay with a job you rarely get that pay rise commensurate with skill as the years creep forward such that the newer generation can sometimes make more than you year one, after you’ve worked 10yrs. This is why unions are key. They prevent that behind the scenes BS from occurring. And push cost of living increases on your behalf. The percentage sounds like a lot but when you break it down it’s simply logical increase.

    • fubo@lemmy.world
      151·
      2 months ago

      Yes, health workers should be unionized. But if we want more doctors, first we need more residency positions. The Boomer doctors retired before the Boomers stopped needing health care. We need to be training a lot more doctors.

      • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
        31·
        2 months ago

        In the US anyway it’s pretty funny because nobody can afford to be a doctor except for people from already extremely privileged backgrounds… who tend to be pricks anyway.

        So we don’t have enough doctors, the ones we do have have no perspective on how an average person actually lives, and some very weird views about wealth as it relates to healthcare.

  • TacticsConsort@yiffit.net
    431·
    2 months ago

    Wew, 10% per year? That’s actually pretty solid, if I’m not missing anything. And having a good deal that lasts THIS long actually flips the normal shitty status quo of multi-year contracts on its’ head, now they won’t need to go to the effort of big strikes for a good few years while they’ve got these fair wage increases locked in.

    • subtext@lemmy.world
      33·
      2 months ago

      To be pedantic, it’s 100%–(162%)^(1/6)=8.4% per year. Still a great number, until you consider that their wages have been pretty stagnant for years.

      Edit:

      That may sound like an extreme demand, but workers would point out that wages for veteran dockworkers have increased 11% since the start of the last six-year contract, while inflation has jumped 24% in the same period.

      https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/stories/2024/09/29/get-ready-for-more-supply-chain-chaos

      • Frozengyro@lemmy.world
        16·
        2 months ago

        I’d also like to compare that to the average American. I suspect most people have done even worse than 11% in the last six years, which is why they don’t support these things. It’s not ‘fair’ they won’t get a similar treatment. It’s sad how many don’t want others to succeed because they are in a bad place.

        • TipRing@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 months ago

          People are so short-sighted, organized labor succeeding helps all labor get more, even if they are not represented. I was in CWA for years but even after I left the union their bargaining successes typically translated into wage increases for me. So even from a purely self-interested position all workers should support union actions and celebrate union successes.

        • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Paycheck goes up 50 bucks a month, health insurance goes up 50 bucks a month. “They got their raises.”

  • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
    211·
    2 months ago

    given expected 2% target inflation of prices YOY, that’s about 8.3%/yr raise good for them.

    • TonyOstrich@lemmy.world
      10·
      2 months ago

      If I understand things, a good chunk of the increase is to offset the inflation that has happened since the last negotiation.

  • drd@lemmy.ml
    142·
    2 months ago

    I’m not sure how I feel about the no automation clause.

    • 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world
      171·
      2 months ago

      Unless the govt wants to start UBI or otherwise guarantee a job with livable wages I feel fine about it.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      91·
      2 months ago

      Me neither but honestly widespread automation should come with a UBI system. Otherwise people will starve.

      • drd@lemmy.ml
        122·
        2 months ago

        Yes, I work in supply chain. Being a dock worker is a tough grueling job, wouldn’t we want to automate that as much as possible? Besides cost, automated ports are both safer and more efficient. I think the ideal scenario would be to grant some sort of retraining.

        • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
          61·
          2 months ago

          We would if there were just equivalent, just as well paying jobs elsewhere. However until we topple the system that makes us work to make the rich richer just to survive we have no choice.

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
            4·
            2 months ago

            Refusing to act until the system is toppled is the same as refusing to act. Just you can pretend you’re not complicit.

            There’s no point waiting until capitalism is destroyed in the Great Socialist Rapture. We should be trying to improve society under capitalism right now.

            In this case, advocate for skills retraining and UBI.

            • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
              21·
              2 months ago

              Skills retraining is great if, like I said, there’s OPEN and comparable jobs to move them to that aren’t displacing other workers in the process. Unfortunately it’s not usually that easy

              • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
                2·
                2 months ago

                We have pretty low unemployment right now and aside from covid it’s been like this for a while. There are plenty of jobs out there for those with the skills.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          35·
          2 months ago

          Automation will only be used to make the job tougher and more grueling.

          A job that used to take three people now has to be done by one, but at a much faster pace and now there’s a deadly robot that you have to work with.

          You work in supply chain. Let me guess. Desk job?

          • drd@lemmy.ml
            8·
            2 months ago

            Automated ports do not work that way, where employees interact directly with a robot. Instead employees stay at a desk and minimal employees are on the ground. Like I had mentioned, automated ports are safer.

            https://youtu.be/P5kO_BnXAwc

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
              26·
              2 months ago

              I know that automated Amazon sorting facilities kill workers, the conveyance systems especially are extremely dangerous. People get sucked in to belts, bashed over the head by moving machinery and product, etc.

              In the real world there are always workers forced to risk their lives with these machines.

              Automation isn’t inherently bad, but it is bad when it’s implemented as a way to increase worker exploitation. That’s how it always works in real life, rather than promotional videos.

              Not everyone gets to be at a desk.

              • drd@lemmy.ml
                2·
                2 months ago

                Again I am talking about automated ports not Amazon sorting facilities, please look into how automated ports work, in fully automated ports there are less workers working directly with machinery than in a standard port. You’ll need to provide sources that automated ports are not safer or more efficient. The transportation and movement occupation has the highest number of fatal injuries in my state, not only can it be fatal but it also takes a toll physically as well, we should be helping these workers and automation can help do that.

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                  14·
                  2 months ago

                  I gave you an example of automation not making workers safer in Amazon sorting facilities to demonstrate the worry that port workers have - they don’t want to be treated like Amazon employees! That’s it. I’m not saying that all automation is bad, only that it can be and you shouldn’t assume it’s automatically good.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
    3·
    2 months ago

    syndicalism fucking WORKS, people.

    its no coincidence it makes for the very basis of practical leftism.

    also no coincidence they try so hard to stop it asap.

  • paf0@lemmy.worldEnglish
    129·
    2 months ago

    Sounds like all of those memes and tweets going around saying the head of the union was in league with Trump were nonsense. They would drag this out if it were just about the election. Boiling a contract negotiation down to presidential politics was insulting to that man and to union members everywhere, but don’t expect an apology.