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    He’s not even the fucking president yet. But at the same time, I know people will believe this which is unfortunate.

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      The US has a long history of Republican future presidents pulling shit like this. Iran hostage crisis, Vietnam peace negotiations, etc.

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        Iran hostage release occurred on inauguration day. That this occurs before, doesn’t change the war on Lebanon or Iranian hostage release delay not being an election ploy.

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          And do you know why it happened on inauguration day and not anytime during the Carter administration? It’s because Reagan promised a better deal for Iran if they didn’t take the one Carter offered.

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            Yes. Netanyahu has already succeeded though. He won’t lose favour by doing the deal slightly early. There is also a theory that Hezbollah inflicted more pain than Israel hoped.

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      As a matter of fact, yesterday I heard someone at work say, “Look at how much he’s done and he’s not even president yet.”

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          How many republicans house members does he need to nominate for a democratic majority

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            I feel reasonably confident there was a list that had to be scrapped at the very last moment, once someone actually did that math.

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    I’ve got some rage reserved for the Biden team right now. They do actually do some good things but are heinously miserable at communicating it so of course the MAGA thugs fill that vacuum with their own ‘info’.

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    It’s on us to fight this shit. Get angry and stay that way. Go on Twitter and other platforms to directly challenge this assertion. Give them not a single inch without having to fight for it.

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      Don’t go on Twitter… that actively funds musk.

      Go everywhere but Twitter.

      Do keep calling it Twitter though.

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      Isnt there better things to go fight about? Biden getting cred for a deal in the middle east is really the last thing on my mind.

      We should be breaking ties with the democrats entirely. They have sold us to the wolves and for 8 years now shown they cannot deliver a decisive win against the rise of authoritarianism.

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        We must not give them an inch wherever and whenever we can. Fight back with clear communication and facts. Challenge constantly. Party doesn’t matter. Remember that many people who voted for Trump did so legitimately not understanding what it would mean. Time to educate because people will start wanting to listen

        • We should strike, trump going to want to claim credit for the economy biden built. We should strike and tear it all down immediately so he actually has to build a working one rather than slowly dismantling it.

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          Amazing! Every word that you just said in your last two sentances was wrong!

          They did so because they want to hurt people. People will get hurt.

          Educate them? If they could be educated, they wouldnt be republican.

          What do you think the democrats were doing over the last 8 years? Twiddling their thumbs? They have been trying to educate people. Nonstop. But it doesnt help because these people do not want to be educated. They want to be shepherded around by a strong man who can make the “right” decisions for them. They want Trump to take control. There is no deeper thought, no platform, no ideology. They arent seeking to gain anything from his presidency. His presidency is not going to convert any trumpers because hes doing exactly what they wanted him to do: hurt people.

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            Not all who voted for him voted FOR Trump. I agree that MAGA is likely never going to be convinced. The rest of them can be and they should be the ones we’re willing to talk to.

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    Its not really a “win” for anybody. It has a 60 day timeframe, which not-at-all-coincidentally aligns to expire right as Biden leaves office. Then Israel will have the greenlight to pursue whichever strategy they wish.

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    Trump team can say anything they want, but with their historical record, quite clearly, it doesn’t need to contain facts OR truth.

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      There’s a saying that history is written by the victors. Be careful with thinking too far in the future.

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    The expanded war and genocide with extra spice was Netanyahu’s way of ensuring Trump win. This was widely announced in Israel as the “inauguration gift” for Trump. Stop thinking the DNC lost the election. The most genocidal Israel supporter won. They fulfilled their mission purpose, and get to fundraise over project 2025 now.

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      Nobody forced Biden to go along with it, or Harris to promise to continue the exact same policies. This is the DNC’s making. The DNC failed their voters, not the other way around. Maybe next time try promising to do popular things, and follow through on the things you promised last time.

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        The organizational mission of the DNC is to fundraise. Since Obama especially, and earlier, zionist sources of fundraising have dominated. Winning is secondary to both fundraising and Israel first rule over America. The hopey/changey stuff wins. The fear of Trump is good at scamming fundraising, and helping make sure he was GOP candidate made sense before Oct 7th, but after it was purely Netanyahu’s decision of who would win. Media and fundraising followed Netanyahu, and being as genocidal, and disrespectful to peace/ceasefires as possible, ensured disgust with human Americans that tend to support DNC. DNC, can choose to lose even as they fundraise pretending otherwise. Politics is always a giant slushfund of middle people happy to get paid.

        The opposition party in America needs to oppose Israel first rule over America. It is a mistake to trust the DNC to assume that role.

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    I read about the ceasefire being broken before I read about Trump taking credit… heh