They think that just because you voted for a certain guy, it means you love him. Nope. I probably hate Joe Biden more than most Republicans do. Unlike them, I actually know some of his policies. Some of them are great. And some of them are wretched. But most of them are just business as usual bullshit when what we need is real change.
Real change starts with organizing the working class.
How do you do that?
Many ways, but a good way to start is joining an org near you, like PSL or FRSO, or even the DSA with the intention of joining with Red Star Caucus (all US based orgs). Unionizing can be great as well, as long as you combine it with reading theory (I have an Introductory Marxist Reading List if you want somewhere to start).
Studying the history of worker organization and revolution helps teach us what we need to do, and can help guide us in analyzing how our conditions are similar and different to find a correct strategy.
You can’t organize the working class with a “Marxist” reading list, maga was already told they don’t like that word. Speak the ideology of unionization while avoiding the things that can be associated with Marxism, communism, socialism, while remembering they don’t understand those things, they just have a trigger words they know to hate.
As an aside when speaking to maga, don’t let the conversation ever be Dem vs GOP, always frame is as workers vs elites. In the former we are divided, in the later we have solidarity.
Historically, such a strategy doesn’t actually work. Sooner or later, you get accused of being a godless commie or a tankie anyways. You can either stand firm in your beliefs and attempt to sweep away the dirt of the Red Scare to accurately contextualize Socialism and AES states, or fail to support them at all, leading to issues like Trotskyism (poor understanding of theory and a lack of support for AES) or PatSocs (Nationalist Socialists in the Imperialist countries).
What you’re saying is exactly the discourse COINTELPRO promoted in US organizations in the 60s and 70s (when they weren’t outright murdering the party members).
How’d that one work out?
It’s easy to deflect workers off the path of real, lasting change when even the organizers only try to do sloganeering instead of education.
You can start by height. If that doesn’t work you can try favorite ice cream flavor.
And no, boot leather isn’t actually an ice cream flavor. There seems to have been some confusion about that amongst us workers lately.
Where in the world are you going with this? Anarchists espouse the importance of organizing in addition to Marxists, albeit in different manners and structures based on different end goals and class analysis. Surely you can give an actual Anarchist answer and not just a joke and a jab at Marxists, right?
You’re right. Perhaps I need to touch grass. My “is this commenter worth actually expending energy” meter may be off.
And to be clear, there was no jab at marxists. There was a jab at the lack of working class solidarity and wealth cult that exists within my everyday context in the US. Which you aren’t necessarily aware of and I wasn’t explicit about.
Marxist and Anarchist end goals really aren’t so different that it makes sense to foster any leftist infighting. We all ultimately want things to be better for everyone, especially the working class.
Ah, gotcha! I’ve seen way too many people making jabs at Marxists these days so I got defensive. I apologize, I got ahead of myself. I agree entirely that at this stage it makes no sense whatsoever to engage in hostile relations between Anarchists and Marxists, the goal remains a more equitable society and liberation of the working class, and are more useful to each other than non-useful.
First the firemen, then the math teachers, and so on…
Indeed, it’s like “You think you’re owning the libs? Mother fucker my very existence complicates their plans.”
We’re about to get a shit load of real change. Business as usual would have been a good election outcome this time.
Not good, still bad, just better than “holy shit why are we driving OFF of the cliff at full speed stop STOP! STOOOOOoooooop…”
Trump is driving off the cliff at 100 mph, Biden was driving off it at 90. “We’re technically better” – when part of that argument includes doing hypothetically less genocide – is a losing platform. You have to seriously promise major improvements.
I think what he meant was we need positive change. Burning our own country down is definitely change, but… well, I guess it’s what the (fucking traitorous) voters wanted, so… buckle up.
As a foreigner whos seen what the US does to other countries, the US burning down sounds pretty good, and being a traitor to the US something to be encouraged.
We are reaching levels of based never seen before.
History in the making.
Nothing ever feels like it improves under centre-ground status quo politics. If things are miserable, they remain miserable.
Joe could go out like a real chad if his last words as president are: “It’s Joever”
A real Chad would have Trump and friends disappeared.
I’d prefer he pardon Luigi.
He’d sooner sentence him to death.
“We’re capitalists, sweaty”
Arguing politics with someone who thinks ‘let’s go Brandon’ is useful argumentation is like arguing religion with someone who never read their holy book or science with someone who barely passed 5th grade, their whole position is as superficial as possible and they think name calling is effective discourse in general because it works on people who are uneducated on the topic and rhetoric like themselves.
Nah because you can say “let’s go Brandon” in church and God won’t know the difference because he’s stupid
Preaching that god is all-knowing and then trying to lie to him in the dumbest ways possible is an ancient Christian tradition.
The chud persecution complex is a weird combination of paranoia and martyrdom.
Lol it’s me and my dad.
Many such cases 😔
My condolences.
My dad: You and your best friend Obama.
Me: For the hundredth time, I hate Obama. I probably hate Obama more than you.
My dad: Yeah, you love Obama.
It is also orthodox christmas tonight.
In the current environment Ded Moroz is going to get tracked on NORAD but only because they’re trying to shoot him down, and then claim that his
balloonsleigh was full of surveillance equipmentAre you triggered?
Huh? About what?
Epiphany is the day that some believe that Jesus was circumcised.
He was Jewish right?
Maybe he just had a weird fetish?
He accidentally slammed it in his car door one day when he was super drunk.
Its also Epiphany, my mom would celebrate on the 7th so she would get rosca de reyes on sale and I didn’t know better until I reflected as an adult.
Honestly this is very unimportant. It has no lasting impact, and will be forgotten by most later
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They started saying it because neolibs were trying to get the red MAGAs banned from communities and platforms for bad language, or just getting the algorithm to suppress it from feeds. Then when they switched, neolibs got pissed the red MAGAs were working around the algorithm filtering, and started posting this stupid meme.
Watching Red & Blue MAGA bicker is like watching toddlers argue.
No they weren’t no one gives a fuck if you swear. Maga people started saying it because of that news reporter at a nascar* (I believe) event. The crowd was chanting fuck joe Biden and she misheard it and it went viral.
I really doubt she misheard it, the whole stadium was chanting it, she just couldn’t repeat “fuck joe biden” on the news when they asked what they were chanting.
Naw our brains do that shit all the time - you don’t hear someone quite right, and instead of recognizing that you didn’t get the info, your noggin just fills in the blanks on its own. She very well may have clearly heard “Let’s go Brandon!”
Perception is reality.
She was interviewing the winning driver, named Brandon, and tried to spin it into a chant for him.
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