What’s great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he’s absolving Musk, or that he’s criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,
‘No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!’
Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:
“I heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.
“Someone said, ‘Musk is not a Nazi… Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.
Right, and here’s the clip.
The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It’s the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.
It can’t realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can’t travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.
Wasn’t the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?
Also dangerous for crews. Sherman tank crews had a 75% survival rating when their tank got bust. I think the tiger had an 80% death rate or something.
lol survival rate vs death rate.
OK so survival rating of 75% vs. 20%. Happy?
No I liked the original! It’s a stark contrast!
Is that because of the tank though, or the situation it ended up in? If they had 20 modern MBTs I expect they would still end up with a high fatality rate.
Even up to present day conflict tanks breaking down or getting stuck can be a major loss of armor, especially during prolonged maneuvers.
Difficult to make, too heavy to be effective, and iirc yeah, unreliable.
That’s every one of those big German tanks everybody talks about. The ones they started the war with were pretty fine (limited by terrain, though).
I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children’s toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I’ve seen). Some of these behemoths can’t even fit in a single parking spot, it’s kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don’t know cars so I can’t say any specific models I’m afraid)
I think RAMs or similar win in that category by being as actively harmful as possible. And having the huge blindspot where you run over kids without noticing.
Before King Tiger and Tiger they had a few very good tanks.
Just when T-34 (which were clearly superior to German tanks once some bugs were ironed out, different class even) production went out of control, Hitler started making more decisions involved in what kind of machines is going to be developed and built.
Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of “cultural purity” beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:
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He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid…
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He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.
¿Por que no los dos?
I wonder where she is now…
Awww. She’s all grown up, and seemingly successful.
there’s no real difference between a true believer nazi and one doing it as a bit. or one going along with it for profits. they’re all nazis.
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Let’s repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit
So is Stephen Fry.
Why? What did fry do?
He said sexual abuse victims should grow up and stop feeling sorry for themselves.
He jumped on the "I’m a Jew " bandwagon, in order to deflect criticism of Israel’s actions in Gaza. This is after presenting as atheist for all of his public life.
Anti trans JK Rowling supporter.
Goddammit. Why is no celebrity available to like anymore? I guess it’s true, we should not idolize anyone. Everyone is a piece of shit in some way or another, and to some level.
Except Keanu Reeves. He’s literally Jesus Christ. ❤️🔥😭
I don’t have full context, but he seems to be transphobic, or possibly trans exclusionary may be more accurate.
https://old.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1hi3opi/another_celeb_dissapointment_stephen_fry/
To put the video in short: Essentially gets asked if he still supports Stonewall even though they support trans kids and speak out against TERFs (worded much differently) and he says no I don’t support them any more, calling it nonsensical, shameful, and sad.
Thanks for the added context. That’s what I guessed based on comments, but wasn’t certain.
He probably said something reasonable that they disagreed with 😄
Is over 60 years old.
See what I enjoy about this comment is all things considered there’s a high likelihood you will live past the age of 60 at which point I hope younger people then call you a piece of shit on the daily simply because of your age. LOL
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The probability is that, as you age, your ability to change you attitudes in order to keep up will slow down to the point where you will seem regressive and problematic to 20yo children when you are 60.
The era that my parents grew up in would seem awful to most people now, but my parents were unaware that there were problems, and they have a hard time seeing a lot of them now.
I don’t know about you, but that sounds miserable. And what makes you think that you will be excluded?
Shhh that’s not important now. My goal is to outlive all of you, that’s my solace.
But. Then you would be the 60 year old asshole? Are you thick or did you not think this through?
Wrong, but you do you.
I think being a transphobe makes you a piece of shit, so you’re wrong actually. lol
Man, you drank some kool aid didn’t you? If someone doesn’t think like you, then they’re an asshole, in spite of an entire life of not being an asshole. Cool cool
Dude, shut up.
Perfect comeback there bud. You definitely made me say “shucks” while I snapped my fingers in a dramatic fashion 😘
Ew that karen ass response is just sad.
I quite like him on jeopardy
If Elon isn’t a full-blown Nazi, he’s at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.
Yeah, his alliances life with power, money, and people thinking he’s cool (narcissism). The racism and cruelty are just his personal side projects.
Just like his grifts.
I’d imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.
All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis
Before? What, in primary school?
What did he do to out himself, out of curiosity?
He punched a guy in 2015 over available food options, which got him fired from BBC. His popularity didn’t take that much of a hit from this incident despite him clearly being in the wrong (Hammond and May both left BBC with him and they started a new show The Grand Tour, which wasn’t as popular as Top Gear, but was still popular.
Then, in 2022, he wrote an opinion piece for the Sun about how much he hates Megan Merkle and included a bit where he said she should be paraded naked through the town. Amazon decided to not start any new projects with him after this, though they continued with the plans to wind down The Grand Tour which had already been established.
He’s got a farming show now, so he wasn’t cancelled over this, despite burning some bridges.
Well that’s a pretty disgusting thing to say about someone. I don’t know what Merkle did to – in his view – deserve such comments, but I can’t imagine the comments were warranted.
I haven’t read the piece but apparently he didn’t even go into the why.
What a douche canoe.
Nobody really remembers, it was so long ago.
Then all’s well, I guess. Just like Hitler. Who was he? ANYWAY let’s get some froghurt…
I think James May got there quicker. The first episode of his Cars Of The People miniseries explores (in part) the driving idea behind the Beetle and its origin, including its proceeds funding the Nazi war machine.
Fry used to be on Mastodon, not sure if he’s still there ?
Just looked…the accounts still there. No apparent activity in a year.
You do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to them
based we did it fascism is defeated
Not every strike in the battle has to be the winning blow.
We did it! Great job everyone!
TBF, Elon’s cars are great at killing groups of people with toxic gasses and then incineration their bodies. Just because he isn’t efficient today, doesn’t mean he isn’t working on being a better Nazi tomorrow.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751
Elon is the new Henry Ford. But I’m afraid we have no modern day Roosevelts to smack him down.
Henry Ford actually had some good ideas himself. Elon steals all his ideas.
Ohhhh so Edison?
The company being named Tesla seems pretty Edison.
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Nah, I’m sure Cybertruck was the example of him messing around in a 3d modeling software and then saying to Tesla engineers “make a car out of this”. There’s no other excuse for the lack of thought in its outer design.
I mean design aside, there is no reason to make it this shit, even if it looks bad. It’s just a rug pull but with cars. There is no way in hell you see one of these driving around in 10 years, except some rare cases of garage queens. The car had a pre-order system for fucks sake. The selling point of the car is that: “in an apocalypse, you can just drive over other cars.” Which says a lot about the clientele of that thing.
He’s the new Henry Ford, but also, he’s the new Henry Ford
Why is this thread full of Nazi propaganda? Yikes. 😬
lemmy users: “That’s no excuse!”
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