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I used to think like that when in my early-mid 20s I would revisit childhood cartoons of mine (80s and 90s stuff) and I would say to myself that this crap is unrealistic because no way the villains could have such dumb followers and be that dumb and continue to exist.
Now I realize that the only truely unrealistic scenario is that in those cartoons you have the good guys who are lauded as good guys for defeating the villains. In reality the villains would simply have some basic PR and propaganda to label the good guys as the real villains and people would swallow that shit up like nobody’s business.
Unfortunately, I think you are right about this.
I don’t know who this villian guy is but I’m hearing good things on the kill all superheros network.
Now there’s no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw
Rush’s don’t do stuff like that. They got these lyrics about… how trees are talking to each other, and how different sides of your brain works, and outer space bullshit.
Yeah I think it’s a sacrifice they’re willing to make, unfortunately.
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Not only US politics. Romania is about to vote for a right wing extremist as their president, Germany is going to vote for a right wing, extremist party in February, France gave right wing extremists 30% of parliament, Spain voted for a right winger too, Hungary has had Victor Orban for years, and so on. All the while progressive and left leaning people either don’t vote, strategically vote for a center right party, or vote for some unknown, unimportant, backwater party that has no chance of doing anything in parliament.
The problem is that centrists consistently align themselves with the far right in order to screw over the leftists.
And leftists can’t unite because they spend their time arguing about whose motives are more pure.
“Judean People’s Front!? We’re the People’s Front of Judea! And if there’s one thing we hate worse than the Romans, it’s the bleeding Judean People’s Front!”
Leftists are busy screwing over other leftists because they’re not good enough.
MAGAs are dumb but ‘both sides same so I’m not going to vote’ leftists might as well be braindead.
Centrists like to call themselves “other leftists” while supporting genocide and cozying up to the Cheneys.
There it is.
What they call “purity testing” we call “Don’t support state-backed murder.”
Centrists wish they had morals.
Centrists denigrate people who have standards because they have none.
The downvotes are proof of this. Why have a platform that improves the lives of everywhere, when you can act smug and support horrid policies that fascists love?
Centrist is the funniest political term ever. Most self-proclaimed centrists are actually further right than most self-proclaimed right-wing people, far less supportive of democracy, AND are also the least informed about political matters than either right-wing people or left-wing people. All of this has been verified by multiple studies, too.
Again, a leftist disparaging a comrade. As is tradition. “Any opinion I disagree with is right-wing”. Funny how that works.
As Yeats famously wrote:
The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.
Seems it’s happening again.
This is not new though, Orwell pointed out in 1939 that demcroacies inevitability turn Fascist when times get harder.
Climate change will see that get even worse still.
Democracies ruled by the rich that do not invest in education, for sure. I’m certain that an educated populace would be less likely to turn to populism and fascism - but we currently do not have such a country…
Well, Germany isn’t that far along. It will vote for a conservative party first, which will do nothing to change the crumbling economy and infrastructure but will further cut social services, all this while normalizing far right talking points by trying to court the voters on the right fringe (who only ever vote for the original), while ignoring or even demonizing any position even slightly left. This will lay the groundwork for the fascists to take over after the next election. And once more conservatives will have helped fascists destroy democracy.
As someone living in Germany, I am so pissed at everyone for being pissed about the current government. It is a coalition of three parties that inherited a country that was led by one person for 16 years, post pandemic, and was hit with two huge wars that they are inevitably involved in. Cut them some slack, maybe? I honestly feel like I am the only one thinking they did quite OK. Give them some time (and fire Lindner) at least. But no, let’s be mad that they didn’t solve recession, climate change, didn’t establish world peace and got the country out of its stillstand of one and a half decades within three years.
I completely agree. They were constantly hamstrung by Lindner and his insistence on not taking new debt and still accomplished more in four years then Merkel in 16.
All the while progressive and left leaning people either don’t vote, strategically vote for a center right party, or vote for some unknown, unimportant, backwater party that has no chance of doing anything in parliament.
those are in fact the three possible options
You forgot to vote for an established green or left party - which many countries do have. And if you think “not voting” is a valid option, then you’re part of the problem.
What if I live in the US?
My condolences.
but why?
“he tells it like it is! and unlike the liars on the ‘left’, his lies are obvious and so we’re all in on it!”
Wanton stupidity abounds…
No one told me there’d be wontons!
What were you saying about stupidity?
Nobody told me the wolves would be bringing wontons! And here I am voting for the humans like a chump.
A thought process is selective and biased. Can’t avoid it in most cases.
Here you think of the wolf being worse than a human for a sheep. But consider this, a wolf will kill the sheep and eat it. A human on the other hand will keep the sheep, lock it up, shear its wool, take its milk, kidnap its young + kill and eat it as the wolf does.
You ask why the sheep selects the wolf, but fail to see that the humane way only prolongs the suffering. Is it really any wonder a sheep would choose the quicker death?
They’ll just keep blaming it on the other sheep and the sheepdogs and the shepherds
Yeah, he will just manifest a new enemy to blame for his incompetence. Last time, it was the “deep state.” Remember, everything he says is accepted as fact. Like election fraud, where the only evidence is that he said it. Reality has never stood in the way of sheep logic.
2024 is basically just “2016: The Sequel”
With a bit of added 2020 spice
The 2016 trouble were triggered by the murder of Harambe. Is it possible that the 2024 trouble were triggered (escalated, really) murder of Peanut and Fred?
Who and what?
Peanut and Fred were a perfectly healthy squirrel and a racoon with millions of followers who were euthanized a few weeks ago by health authorities because their owners had no permission for their custody. Squirrel bit one of the health officers when they took them away so they had to test the animals for rabies (which ends with the death of the animal).
This all was propangandized by libertarian muskrats and the south african apartheit-fan himself for the elections to show the overreaching of, especially the democratically ruled, big government.
Anybody else wish, that people remembered, how to use commas?
In German, the above is how a comma used, and this type of usage might might be common in other languages too.
That’s cool but from what I can tell he’s writing in English.
It’s possible the poster isn’t a native speaker.
That’s cool, but from what I can tell, he’s writing in English.
Touché.
Je suis désolé, je ne peux pas lire le français.
No, that’s french.
Oh boo hoo, the non-native speaker isn’t using your language with perfect grammar. This is something only someone who has never learned another language would complain about.
I know 3 languages well and a bit of 2 others, so you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Yes, I, do
This is how I know I’m with my people here on Lemmy.
Anyone know if u/commahorror made it here?
Hitler also carried out everything he campaigned on. It’s the appeal of a populist strongman, they actually do what they say they’re gonna do.
The problematic part was all the extra stuff he didn’t mention. When he said he would deal with the Jewish problem few people understood how far he would go. He was also beholden to big business despite his apparently socialist posturing.
I feel like it should be something along the lines of told/outspoken/self-proclaimed [socialism] as apparent would imply that his acts had the look of socialism, which was not really the case
You’d think we would have learned from the past, but no. Humanity has a short memory.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Is it something to do with our lifespan, cognitive biases, political arrangements or what? We can read about things that happened in living memory and still make the same mistakes. Seems like some things change rapidly, e.g. computers, and some things change on a glacial timescale e.g. religion.
What’s crazy is if you are an American that has lived in a “developing nation” you have a very realistic idea what is going to happen here.
And there is no way to show/explain/persuade any “real American” of what is coming.
this is too optimistic. Probably like 3/4 of these doofs will watch another sheep get eaten and go “must be a lion in disguise”
WAAHHH HE’S EATING THE WRONG SHEEP!!!
They will not have this level of self reflection. They will blame whoever they’re told by the wolves to blame. Particularly, the closest and most convenient differently-colored sheep.
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He said he was going to eat the other sheep, not us?!
I wish.
And I’d like to propose a more humane perspective, the “wolves” here will go great lenghts to keep their fanbase from understanding what’s going on.
Between that and all the “I told you so” people, I can’t fucking wait to go online for rich social experiences from very great Americans taking action about their situation /s
Edit: Yes, I have set up some Lemmy filters, but it’s gonna take time to refine. If anyone has a good list of filter keywords, it would be kind to share out to others.
All of them
